Progression?

Nak · Fri May 09, 08 3:22 pm **Progression?**

OK, Phil's post on prgossion made me realize I've realy stagnated. So I've been trying new things... Help!

Unhooked: Spectacular failure. I'll leave that for later.

Toeside: I can carve a toeside transition, but I end up pointing to far downwind, killing the power in the kite. If I really push to finish the turn, I brake to a stop...

Jumping: I know a T2 14m is kind of slow, but I've seen them jumped... No matter how hard I turn the kite, it won' go fast enough up to lift me more than a foot or two. (yeah, I know I need to lose more weight!)

I'm on a 14 T2 and a glide. wind is 15 to 22. (The only gear I have with me...) Should I just wait till I get home so I can use a better board and smaller Kite? Or should I be able to learn jumps and toeside on this gear?

Thanks!

Moto · Since 03 Sep 2006 2698 Posts Still a gojo pimp! Moto Mouth

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6549 Posts Couve / Hood Honored Founder

Toeside carves work great with downloops... You can do it all with one hand, so you can drag your other hand for balance, and it gives you enough power so you don't end up slogging to a stop.

Jumping on a 14m? yeah I think that's the problem! Very Happy

You really need 20 knots or more to do decent jumps, so that usually means 11m at the biggest.

Unhooked, you can start by just sitting in the water and practicing unhooking. It will feel weird at first but then you will get used to it quick. Once you got that going start working on doing it while riding. It really doesn't take that much strength, its more of a confidence thing.

Hope that helps... Very Happy

Diggy · Since 25 Nov 2006 342 Posts Gorge to Coast Obsessed

I'm with you. Toe side and jumping are where I am picking up in my progression this year. I'm also riding T2's. I hear PK is coaching, perhaps he can help.

Tips specific to the T2 and bow kites are appreciated.

~dig

Nak · Fri May 09, 08 4:16 pm

Thanks for the tips!

I've got 20 knots or better when I try the jumps, and I'm releasing my edge same as if I was popping... I'll try the downloop; I hadn't thought of that. Thanks! Breaks over, I'm heading back out to try again. Smile

Nak · Fri May 09, 08 5:38 pm

Note to self: Never try your first downloop with a 14... Sad

I hope Airtime isn't too busy these days.

kyle.vh · Since 11 Jul 2007 713 Posts city of angels Addicted

I am working on carving turns, and starting to jump. And carving turns by incorporating toe side. It's fun to come into a turn toe side, and then carve hard and come out on your heels. For other beginners, when you first start jumping, definitely point the board down wind when you land. That seemed to work well today. Doesn't look pretty, though.

pauls · Since 20 Jun 2005 564 Posts Northern Portugal Addicted

Hey coaches i have two questions 1) Riding toeside i usually seem to lose all my speed and up on a really broad reach semi-slogging. Only place i can do fine is Floras lake - do you need be a lot more powered to ride toeside than heelside?

2) Backrolls - no matter if i move my hands to the middle of the bar i always seem to send the kite into a loop - which usually ends up as a power dive into the water - help?????

mobettah · Since 13 Mar 2007 18 Posts Pickering, Ontario

EdG · Since 19 Dec 2005 425 Posts Just a Kook that's Obsessed

mobettah-

I noticed your location and wondering where you kite? I spend some time in the Finger Lakes/ Rochester during the year and have yet to ride there. I hear Crystal Park(?) or Hamburg was the place to go.

I'll have to PM you if I'm there this summer.

ED

pdxmonkeyboy · Fri May 09, 08 8:53 pm

definitely no sending the kite on a backroll. Don't be afraid to carry some speed into it. If you want to pop, you need speed to be able to have some resistance when you thrust your board into the water with your back foot..

B · Since 29 Apr 2008 18 Posts Hood River

Nak,

i just learned to do toeside transitions at the end of last year myself, and found that
i was coming out on toeside at the end of my turn with no power as well, because
my kite was already at the side of the window, on the other side, so insted of
bringing the kite straight across the window i started bringing the kite up towards
12 at the start of the turn when i'm already powered up going in, then at the end
of the turn when you start to lose power dive the kite in the new direction for
a boost of power up onto toeside, once on a plane on toeside it's easier to stay
powered up

hope this helps, stoked to hear people trying new things

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6549 Posts Couve / Hood Honored Founder

Nak - hope your kite is okay, what happened?

paul - on the backroll, another good thing to do is to focus on putting pressure on your front hand. This way you don't have a chance to loop the kite.

Its good not to send the kite for a backroll, but when you are learning you can do it a little bit to get a little height and make it easier. Just make sure you don't send it past noon, and focus on pull hard on that front hand as soon as you get in the air.

Nak · Sat May 10, 08 7:30 am

Rico · Since 13 Mar 2005 1219 Posts Vancouver Photographer

Nak · Sat May 10, 08 11:31 am

I had the bar all the way in, but forgot/didn't consider/ letting the depower strap back out. In my defense, I'd been up 22 hours at the time! Smile

This morning was a ball on my old Fuel! 15 was a bit much, but you go with what ya got! Smile

Nak · Sat May 10, 08 11:46 am

I'm done here for now. Lot of fun, but I do think it would be a lot easier to learn this stuff on a smaller kite. I'm really looking forward to coming home and trying with my 11 Rev and my 7.5 Cult! (Not at the same time... Smile

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