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lance_k

Since 04 May 2005
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Hood River
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PostThu May 15, 08 7:09 pm    how green are we? Reply with quote

curious what people will drive to get to their home kite beach and how many miles a week NW folks typically drive to kiteboard.

is there a way to do a survey here for peeps to vote phil?

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Since 12 Jul 2005
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tsunami
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PostThu May 15, 08 7:15 pm     Reply with quote

50 mpg driving to the beach 55mph for an hour each way, 1980 advanced green technology , no carbon offsets. running 99 bio making your food more expensive Twisted Evil( not that it costs more to run the tractors and truck everything ,that couldn't be making food more expensive) . that mileage is with carpooling with 2 men and two shit monster tail waggers, who are far from being green.

the fifty mile per hour rig gets bypassed at times to drive the extra fifty feey onto the sand though, when the f-350 17mph beast is paraded. carbon excess comfort credits galore in need. Rolling Eyes

2-3 times a week when the doctor and schedule allows only 5 days this year so far Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

got cleared today to ride in time for the coast to shut down for a week. Mad Mad

America

buy local , live local, work local. keep greener. pull your head out.

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Mark

Since 20 Jun 2005
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PostThu May 15, 08 8:32 pm     Reply with quote

Foot to the floor in search of wind! Wink
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pdxmonkeyboy

Since 16 May 2006
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PostThu May 15, 08 9:15 pm     Reply with quote

03 matrix getting around 33mpg now cause I beat on it. Per week, probably 100 miles or so. Carpooled three times this year though. Which is pretty cool if you think about it. Cut our carbon production in half.
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Gman

Since 11 Feb 2006
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Portland
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PostThu May 15, 08 9:38 pm     Reply with quote

drove 205 miles to kite Sauvie's today...

but we carpooled

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Bokeh

Since 07 Feb 2008
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Vancouver, WA
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PostThu May 15, 08 9:49 pm     Reply with quote

06 Audi A3 with 32-34 mpg here. Give me a shout if you want to carpool to Lyle cleanup Sat morning to be greener. Leaving from 'Couver.

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jsj

Since 11 Sep 2006
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PostThu May 15, 08 9:49 pm     Reply with quote

Based on a quarter century of chasing waves, I've learned the hard way not to chase perfect meteorology. Never chase waves or wind, if it's happening suit up.

That said, I'll drive as far as necessary to avoid the crowd (how's that for ultimate irony).

Kiteboarding Green? - sort of. Your kites were manufactured overseas in a place that has little or no environmental regulation, those kites were shipped to you at a high carbon price, your board is dependent on chemical processes that emit all sorts of ugly stuff (and have their own carbon emission issues). It was likely manufactured overseas as well.

We as a user base are probably, on calculation of the true carbon balance, greener than any fossil fuel using recreation... thats a pretty low bar.

Greener than other bad stuff. I'm carpooling to my secret spots these days.

jsj

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Diggy

Since 25 Nov 2006
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Gorge to Coast
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PostThu May 15, 08 10:01 pm     Reply with quote

Out of curiosity are folks quoting there gas milage per sticker or are they actually filling the tank and then driving and doing the calculation when they fill next time? Starting in 2008 they began requiring MPG to be calculated differently and more realistically.

I suppose the computer should be accurate if it tells you your average MPG but I would check it occasionally anyway.

I'd say I'll average 200 miles a week at 33 mpg when I'm loaded with roof racks and gear, carpool sometimes.

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KidCorporate

Since 10 Jul 2007
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PostThu May 15, 08 10:03 pm     Reply with quote

jsj wrote:
Based on a quarter century of chasing waves, I've learned the hard way not to chase perfect meteorology. Never chase waves or wind, if it's happening suit up.

That said, I'll drive as far as necessary to avoid the crowd (how's that for ultimate irony).

Kiteboarding Green? - sort of. Your kites were manufactured overseas in a place that has little or no environmental regulation, those kites were shipped to you at a high carbon price, your board is dependent on chemical processes that emit all sorts of ugly stuff (and have their own carbon emission issues). It was likely manufactured overseas as well.

We as a user base are probably, on calculation of the true carbon balance, greener than any fossil fuel using recreation... thats a pretty low bar.

Greener than other bad stuff. I'm carpooling to my secret spots these days.

jsj


You hit in on the head. It takes nasty chemicals and slave labor to produce our gear, but once we have the gear, and we're at the spot of out choice, we're the greenest of the green!

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pacifichigh

Since 11 May 2005
1004 Posts
ATX
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PostFri May 16, 08 4:23 am     Reply with quote

http://www.begreennow.com/

Help support renewable energy projects and go carbon neutral with a proven industry leader.

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stringy

Since 23 Jun 2006
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vancouver
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PostFri May 16, 08 6:33 am     Reply with quote

up in seattle, I drive 50 miles roundtrip to our best beach, jetty island. I'll hit this beach a couple of times a week, maybe 3-4 times. I got a vanagon that gets 20 plus per gallon.
many of my friends leave a pretty generous carbon footprint chasing wind in the gorge, but this year I see more carpool involvement.
Usually when I hit the gorge, instead of going every weekend, I try and make an extended weekend of 3 or 4 days and go down half as many times.
This month, I'm looking at modifying my V Rod with board racks though so I can cut my fuel costs in half. and look bad ass at the beach.

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blowhard

Since 26 Dec 2005
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Windward



PostFri May 16, 08 6:40 am     Reply with quote

as long as Green means cheap
I'm green

I could walk a couple miles and then kite to my spot
but I'd be pretty tired by the time I beat to windward for home

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shymac

Since 20 Jul 2005
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Home Valley, Wa.
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PostFri May 16, 08 7:45 am     Reply with quote

Walk to work
Walk to kite
Walk to eat.
Walk to drink "walking man"
Stevenson = Super green town.

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pkh

Since 27 Feb 2005
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Couve / Hood
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PostFri May 16, 08 7:55 am     Reply with quote

shymac wrote:
Walk to work
Walk to kite
Walk to eat.
Walk to drink "walking man"
Stevenson = Super green town.


Awesome Thumb's Up

Before kiting I was just like that... only put about 2k miles on my car a year (carpooled to the Mountain.) Then kiting hit and I am racking up 10-15k miles a year. Confused

Carpooling is fun, passes time way faster when you are hanging with your buds.

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KidCorporate

Since 10 Jul 2007
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PostFri May 16, 08 7:58 am     Reply with quote

Drive to the gorge, drive to the mountain, drive to the coast... I have the Carbon Footprint of a midsize african country. Sad

But I um, recycle. Confused

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Kataku2k3

Since 14 Aug 2005
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PDX-LA
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PostFri May 16, 08 7:59 am     Reply with quote

Yeah for sure, Phil. Boarding and kiting plus making trips between here and Corvallis (only to visit the gf now) have me at ~17k a year.

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pdxmonkeyboy

Since 16 May 2006
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PostFri May 16, 08 8:28 am     Reply with quote

KidCorporate wrote:
Drive to the gorge, drive to the mountain, drive to the coast... I have the Carbon Footprint of a midsize african country. Sad

But I um, recycle. Confused


LMAO--that is some funny shit.

Shy, to bad you can't "walk to culture" in Stevenson. Laughing

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