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wannabekiter
Since 14 May 2015
273 Posts
Hood river
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 Fri Oct 09, 15 3:51 pm Which bar? |
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| Hey about to buy my first 8m rally. Should I use my 20 inch bar or buy the 17 that is for sale with the kite? Input please head over there now. |
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voy-tech
Since 08 Apr 2014
372 Posts
Seattle
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| Fri Oct 09, 15 4:00 pm |
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You can fly it with 20inch bar no problem, the only difference may be that it will be even faster and might have a little more power when you send it since the lines are 3m longer.
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wannabekiter
Since 14 May 2015
273 Posts
Hood river
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| Fri Oct 09, 15 4:05 pm |
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| Thanks for the info. One of kite buddy instructors one told me to use the 20, my neighbor who has been klting for 12 years said use the 17. |
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Sasquatch
Since 09 Mar 2005
2103 Posts
PNW
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| Fri Oct 09, 15 5:52 pm Re: Which bar? |
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| wannabekiter wrote: | | Hey about to buy my first 8m rally. Should I use my 20 inch bar or buy the 17 that is for sale with the kite? Input please head over there now. |
I'd go for the 17" as that is what is recommended by slingshot, the manufacturer of the kite. A longer bar will have move leverage and thus turn more quickly. This might be offset some with a bit longer lines as longer lines have slower reaction times from input from the kite user.
Longer lines do generate more power.
Once you're a more proficient Kiter you can try the 20" bar.
I've only been kiting for 13 years so what do I know? 
Last edited by Sasquatch on Fri Oct 09, 15 6:54 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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wannabekiter
Since 14 May 2015
273 Posts
Hood river
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| Fri Oct 09, 15 6:44 pm Bar |
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I think you know a lot.  I picked up the 17 bar with the kite. End of the season pricing. May even get to use it tomorrow out east. Or maybe I will windsurf. I know how to do that in gusty high wind.  |
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Sasquatch
Since 09 Mar 2005
2103 Posts
PNW
Bigfoot
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| Fri Oct 09, 15 6:56 pm Re: Bar |
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| wannabekiter wrote: | | I think you know a lot. I picked up the 17 bar with the kite. End of the season pricing. May even get to use it tomorrow out east. Or maybe I will windsurf. I know how to do that in gusty high wind. |
Sweet! Welcome to the addiction!
Don't forget to Sharpie your name and number upon bar, bag, pump, and kite (corner and or a lighter part of the kite, board, harness, and wetsuit.
Have fun! |
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-kite-france
Since 18 Oct 2015
1 Posts
France
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| Sun Oct 18, 15 7:27 am |
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Thank you for the picture voy-tech.
I just sent the link of this post to a French friend looking for the correct size barre.
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ulx
Since 21 Nov 2008
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| Mon Oct 26, 15 10:04 am |
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| You should be fine. Nevertheless, I think your instructor buddy was right. I preferred the 20 inch bar by far for the 8th. Even if it seems a bit strange for an 8m. |
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jahmbi
Since 28 Jul 2005
622 Posts
MORE HUMAN THAN HUMAN
River Troll
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| Mon Oct 26, 15 10:54 am |
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TO THE QUESTION OF WHICH BAR TO USE , I WOULD GO WITH THE ONE THAT POURS THE BEST DRINKKS   . THEN HAVE A CONSULTATION WITH YOUR SELF AND MOVE FORWARD  ....TROLL
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Kmun
Since 05 Jul 2009
271 Posts
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| Tue Oct 27, 15 8:29 am Go long... |
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I also agree with your instructor friend's longer bar suggestion.
Longer bar advantages:
1. A longer bar, induces greater give and take of relative lengths of outside kite lines (measured to the center/fulcrum of the bar). Therefore, the kite pilot delivers more influence to the kite per their ergonomic (wrist, etc.) limits.
2. During relaunch; greater rear/outside line length differential yields greater kite angulation... induces faster ferry of the kite to the critical angle of relaunch.
3. Kite turning speed is increased.
4. Increase force over a shorter bar lever arm is insignificant. Hands should gravitate to center.
Disadvantages of a long bar:
1. It could make a kite too agile/responsive when learning. If so; de-tune the kite by moving rear/outside kite attachment points forward.
2. Long bar Free style kites are so responsive a longer bar is overkill and can over-steer the kite. The size/lenght reduces agility for freestyle tricks, bar passes etc.
3. Long bars have reduced storage/packing convenience
I prefer a kite to be as agile as possible and always opt for a longer bar w/shorter lines.
The Gorge = 20" bar 20m lines
Coast same bar lenght but longer lines (if light wind). |
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