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Recommended Kites for Beginner/Intermediate Rider?

 
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mdwilli

Since 16 Aug 2013
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PostWed Nov 13, 13 9:28 am    Recommended Kites for Beginner/Intermediate Rider? Reply with quote

I'm getting ready to purchase some used kites and need help choosing them and building my quiver. I will be kiteboarding mostly at Floras Lake in winds from 10-25 mph. I weigh 160 lbs. I'd like to have 3 kites in my quiver. I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks!

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Sasquatch

Since 09 Mar 2005
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PNW
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PostWed Nov 13, 13 9:52 am     Reply with quote

You don't have to buy all the same brand and or model kite, but it sure helps out when rigging. . . just have to learn one routine.

Just try and get a used kite with low miles on it. I learned on C kites back in '03 and things have changed. Might want to stay away from those so I have heard. Personally, I loved c kites; especially on the bottom turns of a wave (powerful and consistent pull).

Just get a kite and brand with a good reputation. Another question to ask is what do you plan on doing in the future? flat water, tricks, chop riding, wave riding?

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mdwilli

Since 16 Aug 2013
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PostThu Nov 14, 13 9:27 am     Reply with quote

I don't think I'll get in to doing tricks. I'll be riding on flat and choppy water and ride waves in the future.

I've been considering Slingshot Rally and Z kites as well as Best Kahoona. What other kites should I be considering that have a good reputation?

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Freeride Kiter

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PostThu Nov 14, 13 10:10 am     Reply with quote

The Ocean Rodeo Rise kites are great for beginners and intermediate riders. Ive flown my Rise quiver in all kinds of conditions for kite boarding, skating, buggying and snowkiting. Easy relaunch, super stable and reliable. There are more and more showing up online and at OR dealers at very reasonable prices.
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Sasquatch

Since 09 Mar 2005
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PostThu Nov 14, 13 11:50 am    Re: Recommended Kites for Beginner/Intermediate Rider? Reply with quote

mdwilli wrote:
I'm getting ready to purchase some used kites and need help choosing them and building my quiver. I will be kiteboarding mostly at Floras Lake in winds from 10-25 mph. I weigh 160 lbs. I'd like to have 3 kites in my quiver. I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks!


I would go for the 6-9-12m quiver. Or maybe 7-9-13

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ecameron

Since 29 Jul 2009
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PostThu Nov 14, 13 12:06 pm    second the 6-9-12 Reply with quote

its what I pull from. fly the hell out of the 6 if its 7m wind.. get a beer if you can't get the 12m up. that's my theory at least.

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WindLogik

Since 09 Feb 2009
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PostFri Nov 15, 13 11:36 am     Reply with quote

I have some delta kites and also have some hybrids. I like to use the deltas early in the season, because if I do something stupid, they are really easy to relaunch. I think delta kites would be good for a beginner.

My first kite was a used delta. I bought something cheap and trashed the crap out of it. I like that approach, because your not worried about scarring your gear while you're learning.

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mdwilli

Since 16 Aug 2013
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Kook



PostSat Nov 16, 13 9:19 am     Reply with quote

Thanks for the valuable feedback. What other kites than mentioned above should I consider?

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Bettyboarder

Since 18 Mar 2005
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PostSat Nov 16, 13 9:41 am     Reply with quote

mdwilli wrote:
I don't think I'll get in to doing tricks. I'll be riding on flat and choppy water and ride waves in the future.

I've been considering Slingshot Rally and Z kites as well as Best Kahoona. What other kites should I be considering that have a good reputation?


Hi mdwilli - we dont compare brands of kites on the forum. It causes too much drama since most people on here are affiliated with a brand.

If your just starting I would suggest you go talk to Will Brady at Flora's take a lesson from him then he'll point you in the right direction for which kites to buy. I took my first lesson from it years ago and it was great.

If you want a review of a certain type of kite your welcome to do a post that just about that kite.

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blowhard

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Windward



PostSat Nov 16, 13 10:54 am     Reply with quote

it could be that industry's is over that Cool

how long have it been? Twisted Evil

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mdwilli

Since 16 Aug 2013
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Kook



PostSat Nov 16, 13 12:32 pm     Reply with quote

mdwilli wrote:
Hi mdwilli - we dont compare brands of kites on the forum. It causes too much drama since most people on here are affiliated with a brand.

If your just starting I would suggest you go talk to Will Brady at Flora's take a lesson from him then he'll point you in the right direction for which kites to buy. I took my first lesson from it years ago and it was great.

If you want a review of a certain type of kite your welcome to do a post that just about that kite.


Sorry, I wasn't looking for comparisons of who is the best manufacture with the best kites. I know how this can cause a lot of conflict. I was hoping for some suggestions on kites to consider so I could research them.

I took my lessons with one of Will's teachers at Floras Lake (great experience and outfit!) and have spoke to him about used kites. I was taught on a Slingshot Z kite and have flown my friend's Best Kahoona kite. The Slingshot Rally kite has also been recommended. But, I'm not familiar with the other kites that fall within this class?

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Jonpnw

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PostSat Nov 16, 13 1:11 pm    Beginner Kites Reply with quote

Slingshot Z, Slingshot Key, Slingshot Rally, Best Kahoona, Naish Ride

Stay away from C kites or high performance kites.

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jeremy

Since 18 Aug 2006
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PostSat Nov 16, 13 1:29 pm     Reply with quote

I kite mostly at the coast with a 6'2 surfboard, for me (200lbs), the perfect 4-kite quiver is 5,7,9,11. A three kite quiver would be 5, 7, 10 or 6,9,11. A two kite quiver would be 6, 9 or 7,10. But there's more you need to know, kites sizes are actually relative due to measurement differences, foil power generation, etc.

I flew many years with one brand/model. The benefit is they rig the same and the sizes are consistent, going from a 6m to 9m really is a 3m difference. Now I have a whole assortment of kites (Caution, Blade, Naish, Epic, Slingshot) and have been surprised to learn that each model is quite unique size-wise (ie, a 7m isn't always 7m), something to be aware of when building out a quiver.

This summer one afternoon I was perfectly powered on my 9m. I decided to try a new 7m I had picked up before calling it a day and I ended up being overpowered on it. This was quite bizarre, going from a 9m to 7m and getting overpowered. This is what got me into comparing sizes. By just laying out my kites, I learned some very interesting things about their relative sizes. (a 7m cut bigger than 9m, 10m bigger than 11m, a 6m almost the same as my 9m, etc).

I emailed a few of the companies about this, got a personal reply back from Dimitri (Epic), he told me that my 6m is exactly 6.46m. I heard back from a Caution rep that my Mayhems were cut small that year. I've seen threads saying similar things, like how a 14m Rally was the same size as the previous years 12m Rally, etc. My 7m Fuel (2011) appears to be an 8m when compared to my Naish kites (and others). Just my 2 cents.

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jeremy

Since 18 Aug 2006
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Manzo & HR
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PostSat Nov 16, 13 1:46 pm     Reply with quote

If you'll be riding waves, wave kites are now mostly all 3-strut with compact bridles. These kites won't have the pop like free-style kites have, but are probably great kites to learn with due to the power control / extra strength. I researched all the wave kites (as these are the kites I've been buying), and came up with a list of over 30 kites that are available, quite a big selection. If you can DEMO a kite, do it.


    Airush Wave 3-strut 5,6,7,9,12
    Ben Wilson Surf Noise *5-strut 5,6,8,10,12
    Best Cabo 3-strut 5,6,7,8,9,11
    Blade Trigger 3-strut 5,7,8,9,10,12,14
    Boardriding Maui Cloud *0-strut 5,6,8,10,13,17
    Cabrinha Drifter 3-strut 5.5,7,8,9,11 or Switchblade 5-strut 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,14
    Caution Spitfire *5-strut 6,8,10,12,14 (5,7,9,11,14 previously)
    Core RiotXR3 *5-strut 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13.5
    CrazyFly Tango 3-strut 7,9,11,13
    Eclipse out of business ??
    Epic Renegade 3-strut 6,9,11 / Surf 3-strut 5,8,12
    F-One Bandit 3-strut 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,14
    Flysurfer RAM-Air kites, Cronix ?
    Gaastra Pure 3-strut 7,9,11,13
    Gin Uru 3-strut 4,6,8,10,12,14
    GlobalKites out of business ??
    JN Kites RAM-Air kites, Wild Thing ?
    Liquidforce Envy 3-strut 5,6,7,8,9,10.5,12,13.5,15
    Mutiny Kites S-series 3-strut 6,8,10,12
    Naish Park 3-strut 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,14
    Noble T5 3-strut 5,7,9,10,12,14
    North Kites Neo 3-strut 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 or Evo 5-strut 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14
    Ocean Rodeo Razor 3-strut 7,8,10,12
    Ozone Reo 3-strut 5,6,7,8,9,10,12 or Catalyst 3-strut 4,6,7,8,9,10,12,14
    Peter Lynn RAM-Air kites
    Royal Kiteboarding XTera 3-strut 3,5,7,9,11
    RRD Religion 3-strut 4,5,6,7,8,9,10.5,12
    Slingshot RPM 3-strut 4.5,6,7,8,9,10,12, 14 or Rally 3/5-strut 6,7,8,9,10,12,14
    Spleene out of business ??
    Starkites Tania 3-strut 5.5,7,9,10,12,14,17
    Switch Method 3-strut 5,6,7,9,11,13 or Element 3-strut 5,7,9,11,13,15
    Takoon Log 3-strut 5,7,9,10.5,12,14
    Wainman Hawaii Rabbit 3-strut 5,6.25,7.5,9,10.5,12,14.5 (not one-pump)
    Zian Kiteboarding Kima 3-strut 5,7,9,11

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tautologies

Since 24 Aug 2006
602 Posts
Oahu
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PostSat Nov 16, 13 5:50 pm     Reply with quote

Another one to put on your list might be Naish Ride.
I would consider going 12 ride and then 10 either ride or park and then 8 Park...or all rides. Great combos.
The rides are also great wave kites.

I have a mixed quiver.

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macgruber

Since 06 Dec 2011
490 Posts
SE PDX volcano
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PostSat Nov 16, 13 11:02 pm     Reply with quote

Windance has a bunch of used Rally's in stock and they ship. I've heard they're similar to my airush lithiums, which I love. I'm 170 and my 6,9,12,17 gets every possible day. I'd start with 9 &12 and a big kite will most likely be another model. For the coast You'd might like 7,10,14. For the gorge 5,8,12. Naish Rides and OR rises seem to be good beginner kites too that are even cheaper. I really liked my 2009 OR Mako 140x40 as a beginner board. It's hard to pearl and keeps its edge when overpowered. I still use it in overpowered conditions like Rooster.

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