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rich

Since 30 Nov 2005
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portland
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Thu May 31, 07 8:21 am waroo tweaks |
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So i bought a used 9m waroo. I still need to pick up a bar/lines. I've heard some people on the forum talk about tweaks they've made to improve performance, overcome some of the kites issues. I believe back stalling was mentioned.
Anyway, I'm travelling quite a bit over the next month. Hoping to get everything ordered and to my house by the end of june and get the waroo all set for a good summer.
Your input is appreciated. |
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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
Hick
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Thu May 31, 07 8:30 am |
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06 or 07?
-Get the 2007 bar.
-Inspect the leading edge seam for compromises in it's integrity.
-Inspect the bridal where the pulleys travel for wear.
-Inspect the pulleys for wear.
-Pump the kite up hard, it should sound like a high pitch drum with you flick it with your finger.
-If the wing tips flair sheet the bar in and hold it there, land the kite because it's to much wind.
There are some bridal modifications you can do, but you'll have to goto the Forum on Best's site to find those. I never messed with my bridals other than making sure everything was the correct length. |
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hedquista
Since 13 Apr 2007
72 Posts
Salt lake city
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Thu May 31, 07 8:52 am waroo |
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Forrest hits it on the nail. Constantly look at the seam on the leading edge. that is where mine blew and it put me out alomost a month becasue of no kite. as far as back stalling, make sure you have set your lines on the correct knot.(which knot depends on wind speed) mess around with it until it feels right. by the way the 07 bridle up grades are super easy to do. i have done them on my 06 and it flyes great. |
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Nak

Since 19 May 2005
4312 Posts
Camas
Site Lackey
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Thu May 31, 07 9:01 am |
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Airtime can do some reinforcement on the leading edge, which might help prevent a leading edge blow out. When I talked to them it was pretty cheap to do, but I can't remember exactly how much. |
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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
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Thu May 31, 07 9:25 am |
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$20 if it hasn't blown already and, IIRC, $45 if it has. This is only if your Waroo has the improper stitch, some of the late model ones were corrected and won't need it. My 7m is solid, but I got it at the end of last summer.
Nak wrote: | Airtime can do some reinforcement on the leading edge, which might help prevent a leading edge blow out. When I talked to them it was pretty cheap to do, but I can't remember exactly how much. |
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jonah

Since 20 Jul 2006
169 Posts
Hood River
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Thu May 31, 07 11:35 am |
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don't pump the kite up too hard. I used to go to 10psi and then my bladder popped. I was advised by Best to stick closer to 8.
When you get the 9m into serious gusts (35-40mph), it'll lose its bow shape, flatten out and stall. When this happens, you have to sheet in (pull the bar in) to maintain the bow shape. This is hard to force yourself to do when overpowered.
There is a bridal mod that supposedly fixes this. It's mentioned on the Best forums. (Search for "spits the dummy".. it's an Aussie phrase for some guy describing his kite falling to shit in high wind). |
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Gman

Since 11 Feb 2006
4911 Posts
Portland
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Thu May 31, 07 11:45 am |
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jpeskin wrote: | don't pump the kite up too hard. I used to go to 10psi and then my bladder popped. I was advised by Best to stick closer to 8.
When you get the 9m into serious gusts (35-40mph), it'll lose its bow shape, flatten out and stall. When this happens, you have to sheet in (pull the bar in) to maintain the bow shape. This is hard to force yourself to do when overpowered.
There is a bridal mod that supposedly fixes this. It's mentioned on the Best forums. (Search for "spits the dummy".. it's an Aussie phrase for some guy describing his kite falling to shit in high wind). |
Good Advice - 7psi on the 2006 and listen closely for creaking and the impending shotgun blast - not a $20 fix |
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rich

Since 30 Nov 2005
306 Posts
portland
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Thu May 31, 07 11:57 am |
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wow, i didn't know that these things were so fragile. I've really only ridden north kites, which I've abused plenty w/out consequence (though they do cost a lot more). thx for the info |
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pkh

Since 27 Feb 2005
6549 Posts
Couve / Hood
Honored Founder
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Thu May 31, 07 12:07 pm |
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jpeskin wrote: | When you get the 9m into serious gusts (35-40mph), it'll lose its bow shape, flatten out and stall. When this happens, you have to sheet in (pull the bar in) to maintain the bow shape. This is hard to force yourself to do when overpowered. |
I wouldn't ride the 06 9m in that much wind, by the time sensors are reading gusts over 35 usually you should be on a 7m or even a 5m.
A good way to think about SLE kites is they usually have 2m more low end than a C kite of the same size.
So
9m SLE = 11m C kite
7m SLE = 9m C kite
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You can ride them totally maxed out trying to hold on but I wouldn't. For guys serious about riding SLE's in the Gorge, you should have a 7m as your small kite. |
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holly

Since 09 Jul 2006
440 Posts
Hood River
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Thu May 31, 07 12:14 pm |
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get a C kite |
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magicmaker

Since 29 Oct 2006
895 Posts
da Hood
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Thu May 31, 07 12:20 pm |
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holly wrote: | get a C kite |
just so long as it isn't that north crap  |
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Mark

Since 20 Jun 2005
3678 Posts
I need my fix because I'm a
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Thu May 31, 07 12:48 pm |
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Here's a interesting thought....
An airbag (used for pallet stabilization) in a full shipping container (kind you see on the road/ barges) takes NO more than 6 psi. Anything more and you run the risk of bulging out the sides of the container.....  _________________ Cleverly disguised as an adult...
www.naishkites.com |
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J.P.

Since 10 Mar 2005
638 Posts
Addicted
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Thu May 31, 07 12:54 pm |
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Add tow point limiters to the front bridles on all 06 Warro's.
This will all but eliminate unwanted inverstions due to pilot error.
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Gman

Since 11 Feb 2006
4911 Posts
Portland
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Thu May 31, 07 1:08 pm |
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J.P. wrote: | Add tow point limiters to the front bridles on all 06 Warro's.
This will all but eliminate unwanted inverstions due to pilot error.
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Got any pictures. Not worried about the limiters getting stuck in the pulleys? |
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jonah

Since 20 Jul 2006
169 Posts
Hood River
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Thu May 31, 07 5:21 pm |
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pkh wrote: |
I wouldn't ride the 06 9m in that much wind, by the time sensors are reading gusts over 35 usually you should be on a 7m or even a 5m.
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Agreed. I would strongly not recommend the 9M in this much wind. My note above was more of a warning in case you end up in it accidentally when the wind comes up. Though a friend and I also tried a 7M and 9M once in 35+ gusts, and we both felt the 7M had little additional range (this is the 2006). I've also seen a guy struggle in 30+ to stay on a plane with a 5M 2006 Waroo. So I'm not sure I like any of the smaller Waroos. Maybe the 2007 7M would be a good high wind kite. Accord to Best, the 2007s are more "stable"; I assume this is what they mean.
Some of my friends (5+) who were on Waroos last year are now on North Rebels and they all feel it is a more stable kite in high winds (albeit more expensive) kite. This may be because of the safety fallback of the 5th line. |
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gabe
Since 16 May 2005
491 Posts
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Thu May 31, 07 5:52 pm |
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the 06 5m and 7m are very good high wind kites if you know what you're doing and have the right size, but they are not necessarily foolproof when it's really blowing.
jpeskin wrote: | pkh wrote: |
I wouldn't ride the 06 9m in that much wind, by the time sensors are reading gusts over 35 usually you should be on a 7m or even a 5m.
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Agreed. I would strongly not recommend the 9M in this much wind. My note above was more of a warning in case you end up in it accidentally when the wind comes up. Though a friend and I also tried a 7M and 9M once in 35+ gusts, and we both felt the 7M had little additional range (this is the 2006). I've also seen a guy struggle in 30+ to stay on a plane with a 5M 2006 Waroo. So I'm not sure I like any of the smaller Waroos. Maybe the 2007 7M would be a good high wind kite. Accord to Best, the 2007s are more "stable"; I assume this is what they mean.
Some of my friends (5+) who were on Waroos last year are now on North Rebels and they all feel it is a more stable kite in high winds (albeit more expensive) kite. This may be because of the safety fallback of the 5th line. |
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pkh

Since 27 Feb 2005
6549 Posts
Couve / Hood
Honored Founder
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Fri Jun 01, 07 6:19 am |
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The 07's definitely have huge improvements in the stability and construction areas. Basically everything that was wrong with 06 got fixed, but the depower (though smoother) is not as immediate as in 06. |
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