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bambam
Since 15 Mar 2005
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Hood River
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Mon Jul 16, 07 11:05 am Helix Mini Site @ www.naishkites.com |
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Thought it needed its own Subject Line!
http://www.naishkites.com/
Thanks, Jon |
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
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Mon Jul 16, 07 11:26 am |
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But I thought my subject line was a little more appropriate. LOL. Seriously though, at this point I think allot of people are waiting for some real world reviews. |
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jonah
Since 20 Jul 2006
169 Posts
Hood River
Stoked
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Mon Jul 16, 07 11:33 am |
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wow.. mad props to Naish for trying completely new ideas for kite design. Can't wait to feel/hear how they fly. |
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bambam
Since 15 Mar 2005
760 Posts
Hood River
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Mon Jul 16, 07 11:38 am |
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Hey PMB,
No HYPE needed as these the performance of these kites will speak for itself. I have no idea what the NW demo plan is, but now that we are being open and forthcoming with information... I will let everyone know when I know.
Jon |
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Kodiak
Since 01 Aug 2005
1114 Posts
Slidey
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Mon Jul 16, 07 11:48 am |
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The bar does look like a serious upgrade this year as well.
Bam,
I understand some of the benefits from the sigma design, tighter canopy, easy relaunch, very difficult to invert. Can you do any comparison though from personal experience about how they fly compared to the 07 SLEs? Do they boost better, how is turning, rear line pressure etc.
Jim |
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
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Mon Jul 16, 07 11:57 am |
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Yeah, give us some idea of how it flies. Something, anything. No wait, let me guess...
It's faster, jumps higher, flies smoother, turns easier, rides unhooked better, and have more range than any other kite every made or any kite that WILL be made in the next 3-years (except for the Helix 2).
I'm just prodding you, the design definitely has some merit. I don't know if I can wait till 09 when I can afford one though. |
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bambam
Since 15 Mar 2005
760 Posts
Hood River
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Mon Jul 16, 07 11:59 am |
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Jim,
The new bar is awesome, and the new sliding stopper works perfectly.
Hmmm, hard to put an overall kite feel into words. But KNOW this... In 08 I will not be riding the Torch, but instead will be fully on either the Helix or Cult...
Super floaty/gliding jumps, fast, and perfect bar pressure in 1:1... But don't take my word, try a demo later this summer or early next spring.
Bams... Last edited by bambam on Fri Jul 20, 07 3:29 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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pkh
Since 27 Feb 2005
6548 Posts
Couve / Hood
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Mon Jul 16, 07 5:18 pm |
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More pics I found...
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
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Mon Jul 16, 07 8:02 pm |
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man that thing looks sooo cool!!! |
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gabe
Since 16 May 2005
475 Posts
Obsessed
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Mon Jul 16, 07 8:23 pm |
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those bridles are extravagant.
i suspect the price will be as well? |
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J.P.
Since 10 Mar 2005
638 Posts
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Mon Jul 16, 07 8:32 pm |
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jpeskin wrote: | wow.. mad props to Naish for trying completely new ideas for kite design. Can't wait to feel/hear how they fly. |
WORD! |
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Kodiak
Since 01 Aug 2005
1114 Posts
Slidey
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Mon Jul 16, 07 9:07 pm |
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Bam,
Can you talk about the major differences between the helix and the cult? The alliance seems like the kite for folks that can't give up a 5 line kite and the code looks like the more entry level kite, although I could be wrong. Also any word on the price point?
Jim |
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bambam
Since 15 Mar 2005
760 Posts
Hood River
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Tue Jul 17, 07 12:42 pm |
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Jim,
Your pretty much close... Please refrain from trying to compare these kites to any past Naish designs.
Helix is our top of the heap performance kite with seven struts to give it a tad more stabilty. The kite does everything very very well. Personally I really like the Cult with the simplicity and light feeling of five struts. Maybe not the mad stability and jumping of the Helix, but it just does everything really really well. I have not ridden the Alliance much as it is slated for a slightly later release date. The Code is our price entry kite that is based more off the Cult. At the importer meeting I watched Robby take the Code and school everyone on the water, so just know that pricepoint does not mean ANY less performance. Just some bells and whistles like the Octopus were removed to bring the price down.
The Torch is well... still the Torch. Don't mess with what works eh?
Instead of getting into the nuances of the techy kite measurement metrics, the one thing that I really have noticed about the Sigma Series is that the GeoTech and Sigma Outline really to combine to create a kite that is just simply easy to fly and perform with. I kinda feel like I am cheating with these kites and that the whole kiteboarding thing should be more difficult.
Man, I wish I was learning to kite now! But as always, the key is to demo demo, and demo some more. No company can tell you what you are going to like, but I think Naish has got something here that LOTS of people will indeed be liking.
Bams |
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Kodiak
Since 01 Aug 2005
1114 Posts
Slidey
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Tue Jul 17, 07 1:02 pm |
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Thanks for the info. Now I just have to track one down for a demo |
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Coloradokiter
Since 11 Apr 2006
19 Posts
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Fri Jul 20, 07 5:19 am |
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Bams
this is a question on the new bars. I've been told by my dealer that they were told the first batch of Helix's were coming with the "Standard Loop" bars. The mini site only shows the new "Smart Loop" system. I am just guessing that the Smart Loop isn't ready yet. Have you seen the Standard Loop bar and does it have the moveable stopper or is it basically last years bar? Any description of what the Standard Loop bar looks like?
thanks, Joel |
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bambam
Since 15 Mar 2005
760 Posts
Hood River
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Fri Jul 20, 07 11:17 am |
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Joel,
You have been told correct... The Smart Loop needed a wee bit more luv before it could go public, but trust me...it rocks...
On the Standard Loop, it is the same release system as this years kite and the power adjusters are are also the same. BUT, it does feature the new sliding stopper by having the center trim line split into two lines. The stopper is also a two piece design that allows quick installing and removing. We advise beginners to NOT use the stopper initially as it impedes the depower of the kite in situations where they might need to let go of the bar.
Enjoy, and kite on... Jon |
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tautologies
Since 24 Aug 2006
602 Posts
Oahu
Addicted
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Fri Jul 20, 07 11:51 am |
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so when will we get some big air photos? I'm dying to test the 14.
A. |
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