Hey, What's up with the slider?

forrest · Tue Jun 05, 07 10:07 pm **Hey, What's up with the slider?**

I'm never gonna get as good as Dre if we don't get that thing built!

This was posted to Kitescoop where I'm a loser lurker.

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6548 Posts Couve / Hood Site Lackey

any updates?

forrest · Mon Jun 11, 07 7:26 am

Here are some pix from yesterday. They're in reverse order.

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6548 Posts Couve / Hood Site Lackey

Sickkkk!!!!

forrest · Mon Jun 11, 07 7:31 am

This thing is going to be amazing. If you get on it, you're just going to go crazy waiting for the ride to end...

It should be in the water by this coming weekend. Rumor has it that the Liquid Force team is showing up on Friday.

The down section still needs to be built. Still taking donations!

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6548 Posts Couve / Hood Site Lackey

Cool, donation details here:

http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-3759.html

Can't wait to try this thing, I better start pounding the liquid courage now just to make sure I'm ready. Wink

tekko · Since 20 Feb 2006 376 Posts White Salmon Liquid Force

I have had the fortune to see many many sliders built for kitebaording...some of which were built with large coorporate Redbull sponsorship and I have to say DAMN!!! That's fine!!!

That is what you get when you have the locals fund it and our local contractor / riders design and build it.

..oh... and that rumor about the LF team showing up... well, lets just say that there is some truth to that.. but we'll wait to see who makes their planes before we get too excited.....

magicmaker · Since 29 Oct 2006 895 Posts da Hood Opinionated

if anybody has a link to get the permit information, can you please post that.

thanks

pdxmonkeyboy · Mon Jun 11, 07 10:58 am

I highly doubt that it has a permit.

Perhaps a temporary structure permit.

magicmaker · Since 29 Oct 2006 895 Posts da Hood Opinionated

i meant a link to get an application for the permit, ah hell, i'll just go find it.

pdxmonkeyboy · Mon Jun 11, 07 1:15 pm

pdxmonkeyboy · Mon Jun 11, 07 1:30 pm

Ok, so I'm a dick. but seriously, if your looking for a permit for that thing you have somewhat of a journey in front of you.

The feds (meaning the Corps of eng.) are cool and the gang. That activity would fall under nationwaide permit #11, temporary recreational structures and if you were in Washington, you would be done because the state dept. of ecology waived their abilty to ensure your project won't impact water quality. but you are in oregon sooo....

uh ooh, you have to get a 401 water quality permit from the OR DEQ b/c they have determined that all in-water structures need to be authorized under section 401 (section 401 of the federal clean water act). So just for shits and giggles I checked on what DEQ would say about your bitchin' slider ramp constructed out of pressure treated lumber which has arsenic in it as well as all other kinds of neat chemical compounds...

uhh ooh again..seems like they not likely that stuff...

From DEQ's genreal conditions for Corps of engineers nationwide permits...

4) Deleterious Materials: The following conditions relating to control of hazardous, toxic and waste materials shall be observed:
a. Treated Wood: Ineligibility- Projects which propose installation of chemically treated wood that will contact surface or ground water or that will be placed over water where it will be exposed to abrasion require individual, site specific review and are, therefore, not certified by this 401 WQC.
b. Projects that require removal of chemically treated wood must:
i. Ensure that no treated wood debris falls into waters of the State. If treated wood debris falls into waters of the State, it must be removed immediately.
ii. Dispose of all treated wood debris removed during a project, including treated wood pilings, at an upland facility approved for hazardous materials of this classification. Do not leave treated wood pile(s) in the water or stacked on the streambank.
iii. Immediately place removed piling onto an appropriate dry storage site.
iv. Attempt to remove the entire temporary or permanent piling.
v. Ensure any treated wood piling to remain submerged is broken, cut, or pushed at least 3 feet below the sediment surface.
vi. If chemically treated wood piles are to be removed using a vibratory hammer, ensure that holes are capped with clean fill as the pile is removed in order to contain any undecomposed chemicals which have pooled beneath the substrate and may tend to escape upon extraction of the pile due to being less dense than the surrounding water. Clean fill must be accounted for in project description and threshold limits.
vii. Fill and cover holes left by each treated timber piling removed with clean, native substrates that match surrounding streambed materials.
c. Biologically harmful materials and construction debris including, but not limited to: petroleum products, chemicals, cement cured less than 24 hours, welding slag and grindings, concrete saw cutting by-products, sandblasted materials, chipped paint, tires, wire, steel posts, asphalt and waste concrete shall not be placed in waterways or wetlands. Authorized fill material must be free of these materials. The applicant must remove all foreign materials, refuse, and waste from the project area.
d. An adequate supply of materials needed to contain deleterious materials during a weather event must be maintained at the project site and deployed as necessary.
e. Machinery refueling shall not occur in waterways, wetlands, or riparian

AND... you will need some kind of permit or another from Oregon DSL (division of state lands) even though there has to be some kind of exemption somewhere for temporary structures, I couldn't find it and I know that there isn't a programatic permit for recreational structures which means that if you did need a permit you would be
'fucked" b/c you would likely have to complete a biological assessment to determine if your slider may effect ESA species.....and its made of chemically treated lumber.

So what does this mean? Don't ask don't tell. Or "it's easier to beg for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission".

I'm too old to hit sliders anyways
Smile

genek · Since 21 Jul 2006 2165 Posts East Po KGB

forrest · Tue Jun 12, 07 6:03 am

Down section will be good for anyone with enough (insert reference to testicles here) to gap the top, or for the strapless brave who wanna hit it on skim boards and wake skates.

This slider is going to be good for everyone. I know a lot of you guys think you'll never hit it, but you never know! If you've ever touched a rail on a snowboard and can ride downwind unhooked, you could do this rail.

What's the greatest nation in the world? Donation!

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6548 Posts Couve / Hood Site Lackey

$120 more headed Joby's way thanks to a few more dedicated kiters!

Thanks!!!

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trevorsmith · Since 25 Apr 2005 501 Posts PDX Addicted