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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
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retired kiter & motorhead Unicorn Master
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 Thu Apr 05, 07 12:56 pm |
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| Nak wrote: | | pdxmonkeyboy wrote: | | Hmmm, a shout out to Nak for focusing the light on one of the problems with the CGKA activity. Sorry if a meeting will interfere with your "epic session" but I do believe its called sacrificing for the greater good. I don't mean to diss on you but you need to realize how your message comes across; especially to people who organize these kinds of things. |
Actually, I was thinking about attendance in general. My sessions are almost always weekday sessions as I usually have family commitments on the weekend. If the meeting doesn't conflict with my work, I'll be there. An evening weekday time generally conflicts the least with peoples schedules.
Maybe Philip could run a poll, see when people are most likely to show up? I think the goal should be to get as many riders as possible involved. Strength in numbers and all.
Nak |
Thanks for taking the high road on that one, wasn't intending to flame ya. If it is during the weekend it should be later so that people can commute to HR. I would think an early time would work best on the weekends.
I still think that the leaders should come down from the mountain with the stone tablets and let us know what the hell is going on. I mean, it doesn't bode well for an organization when we have to step forward and get everyone interested in attending and asking when people should attend....
Phil, why don't you just start the NWkite Kiters Association or something?
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pacifichigh
Since 11 May 2005
1004 Posts
ATX
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| Thu Apr 05, 07 12:58 pm |
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Pepi I am on the BOD. When the board was assembled last year it was pretty much a matter of who voulenteered for the job, and not everyone who signed up probably realized that it would actually take some sweat equity to make stuff happen.
Hindisght is 20/20, time to move on and improve the situation. |
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
4312 Posts
Camas
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CGKA Member
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| Thu Apr 05, 07 1:04 pm |
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| pdxmonkeyboy wrote: | | Thanks for taking the high road on that one, wasn't intending to flame ya. |
No worries Monkeyboy! I re-read my post and it did sound like I was whining.  That wasn't my intent, but it probably came across that way.
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tstansbury
Since 06 Jun 2006
649 Posts
Rowena and P.C
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| Thu Apr 05, 07 1:06 pm |
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| If you do not have a quanity of kiters at a meeting then the cgka does not represent anyone it is just a few people acting as indivduals. For the cgka to claim to represent kiters it needs to have open meetings to hear from kiters. Or at the very least it needs to have threads on this forum where the leadership of cgka asks for imput from mebers and then tries to represent these views. |
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
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Camas
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| Thu Apr 05, 07 1:12 pm |
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| Pepi wrote: | For meetings, sometimes it is not always better to have more people attend.
Too many people does not allow for a proper consensus group and prevents any ability to make focussed, goal's oriented decisions.
I wouldn't worry about the quantity of people, just focus on the quality of the committed people.
Pepi |
I agree completely Pepi, but the core group that's going to do the work needs to have the support of those they are representing. At some point, there really should be a "mass" meeting involving as many riders as possible. (Followed by a party???  ) Otherwise you risk alternate groups popping up. Whether or not that is the goal at this meeting is above my pay grade here!
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
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Camas
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| Thu Apr 05, 07 1:15 pm |
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And by the way, many thanks to those of you out there who have been generously donating your time to this! PacificHigh, and I'm not sure who else, Thank you!
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Pepi
Since 16 Jun 2006
1832 Posts
Pure Stoke Sports
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
4312 Posts
Camas
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| Thu Apr 05, 07 1:44 pm |
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| Pepi wrote: | Thanks for correcting me.
Pepi |
Pepi, really, I wasn't correcting you. Everyone is throwing out good ideas. You are completely correct in that a small group will get more done than a large group. The question is, is the goal of this meeting to get things done, or is it to drum up support?
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LP
Since 05 Apr 2007
115 Posts
HR
Stoked
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| Thu Apr 05, 07 2:34 pm |
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Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks for the kick in the ass tekko, your post finally got me to register!
I volunteered to be on the CGKA BOD when the CGKA was restarted last year because I live here in HR, I wanted to help, and because I thought I could be of some use as a liason between the CGKA and the city of hood river where I serve as a city councilor.
I think the CGKA has had a good start with the initial meeting, a handful of well-attended board meetings subsequent to that meeting, and the beach clean-up--a lot of good work has been done (not by me, but by other board members!)--but since then, the flow of information has slowed or been non-existent. I am supposedly on the BOD, but I haven't gotten a CGKA-related email for months!
I think with better information flow (some sort of infrastructure, email lists, using this forum, more meetings, whatever) we can get back on track. We need to figure out a way to keep the membership informed and to get feedback from the membership so when cory and jim talk to the port and other entities, they are truly representing the wishes of the CGKA as a whole. It is not easy to get a group of rowdy, busy kiters organized, we will have growing pains, but if the CGWA can get things done, we can too! I applaud the efforts of the dedicated board members who have gotten after it largely on their own with little support. I am stoked to put some time into this as a board member or if the CGKA membership wants to elect a new BOD I am open to some new blood and am happy to do what I can from the sidelines.
Looking forward to the next meeting, whenever/wherever it is!
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Bettyboarder
Since 18 Mar 2005
1823 Posts
PDX/ White Salmon
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| Thu Apr 05, 07 4:15 pm |
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| Quote: | | I like the idea of an earlier meeting, the reason that I was thinking a couple weeks out was so that people show up and don't say "Dude I totally would of come but I just heard about it yesterday." |
If this Sat is too soon, do it next Sat that way people have a week to plan for it.
Post it here on the forum, put up a few flyers, send out a email (let us know if you need help with that). Most importantly tell people to spread the word to their friends.
Even if it's just a small group of people that show up at least then some of us can know what is going on and what we can do to help. |
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shredbarbie
Since 17 Sep 2005
97 Posts
Hood River, OR
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| Sat Apr 07, 07 2:25 pm |
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Hi All,
First and foremost, from reading the recent posts, it appears that CGKA might need to re-assign currently empty positions. (I am only assuming this since I'm not on the board and stepped down Aug 06.)
I looked up the list that was voted on last summer and many people on that list are inactive. This might be a big part of why there is confusion about CGKA and projects. Positions are currently not being filled.
I think right now there are only 3 people listed below (Cory, Shay and Jim) that have been active since the re-inception last summer, (and I am not 100% sure Jim is full time HR, but am not sure since I stepped down from the Board last Aug.)
From the revitalization meeting:
http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-1710.html&highlight=cgka+revitalization
Move forward to assign and define (does this still need to be done?) volunteer positions:
Board of Directors:
• Webmaster – Mark Worth, nominated and elected
• Fundraiser – Kirsten Andrews (stepped down 8/1/06), Moria R and Derek B volunteered with assistance from Carlos Cornelius as support with artwork
• Treasurer – Shay Ohrel MBA in finance, nominated and elected[/b][/b]
• Secretary – Spring Milward & Mike Haasey nominated and elected to share position
• Legal Council – Jim Mason is nominated and can refuse, Kirsten will call him
• Moderator – Mark Worth
• Spokesperson – Cory Roeseler nominated & Jim Grady volunteered (IKO level 1 instructor with experience presentation to groups). They’ll share the position.
Pepi brought it to the attention that the BOD directors must have at least one year-round resident…These Board Members at large were nominated
• Laurent Picard
• Eric Cohn
• Tanya Farman
• Kirsten Andrews – stepped down 8/1/06
The ones in BOLD are the only positions currently being covered year round (I think). Also, I have noticed some confusion in the community about the position of spokesperson and what the responsibilities of that position are and would propose the following:
That CGKA revisit the positions in place and model them after CGWA. I say don’t reinvent the wheel. Maybe CGWA would share the position descriptions and responsibilities for each. I know there has been some confusion about what the role of the spokespersons are, and it seems to me that both spokespeople are taking on roles far more in-depth than spokespersons (kudos to both for that).
• President
• 1st VP
• 2nd VP
• Secretary
• Treasurer
• Web Master
• Newsletter creator/s (for the future)
• Board of Directors (maybe later?) .. could do an advisory board for now which CGKA sort of has already…
• Executive Director (maybe later as things solidify)
Two very important things missing right now are the communication positions:
Admin/Secretary – someone at least to answer emails and post meeting up on nwkite and cgka.net and to the email list.
Web Master: Someone to make sure updates and current news are available on cgka.net
In addition, I'll tell you from personal experience putting in countless hours in running the Seattle Kitesurfing Association (we would put on 3-hour free clinics once a week in Seattle during the summers) you need to have people on CGKA that will not brush off a CGKA meeting for an 'epic session', and will prioritize appropriately and stick to the committment.
Cheers, and great job by those active on CGKA!
-Kirsten aka Shredbarbie |
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