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DavidT

Since 30 Oct 2010
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PostMon May 15, 17 10:29 pm    Where to buy LF foil hardware?? Reply with quote

Does anyone have any idea where I might be able to find the bolts that LF uses for their foil set-ups? I just need a spare bolt or two so I'm hoping to find a supplier rather than forking over the $30US for the full hardware replacement from LF.
Thanks!



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Matt V

Since 26 Oct 2014
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PostTue May 16, 17 5:28 am     Reply with quote

$30 is not that much for the whole kit if it includes the plastic transition plate (if you use it). I spent like $25 just ordering minimum quantities of bolts from Fastenal. But here you go.


Take your existing hardware into Fastenal, or a local nut & bolt store. They are metric, so it could be a special order in lower population areas. You WANT stainless. But in an emergency, zinc plated works fine in fresh water.

You could also get some tee-nuts. If they only have the pronged ones, then you will have to cut those prongs off. Brad hole is the better choice, though you could need a special wrench for them or have to grind a gripping surface on the edges. Again, for an emergency, these do not need to be stainless. I will bet you a dollar you cannot locally source stainless, brad hole, M8 tee-nuts. Valid on first to present only.

I went so far as to get a whole set of standard thread hardware as a backup too - just in case I was in BFE some time and lost a whole bag of metrics or something. If you go this route, remember the counter sink angle is different on metrics versus standards so it may look a little funny on the top of your board.

Also get some LanoCote to put on the threads to stop corrosion. LanoCote is not as high tech as TefGel, but it does the job with lots less visible mess. From your pics, it looks like you are using "anti-seize". That works, but I think LanoCote is better on stainless surfaces.

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Ho-Toe

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PostTue May 16, 17 6:24 am    crackmaster Reply with quote

If you aren't near a fastenal, and don't mind paying a little extra for shipping, and you know what size & thread your hardware is, you can order it from McMaster-Carr (mcmaster.com). Get 316 stainless. It the most corrosion-resistant stainless alloy that's commonly available.

And I second what Matt says about Lano-cote. It smells like mutton (it's made of lanolin and beeswax), but it works better than anything I've found for preventing galling.

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wylieflyote

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PostTue May 16, 17 6:50 am     Reply with quote

Where are you located? Tacoma Screw always has everything. And you can purchase as few items as you need.
http://www.tacomascrew.com/locations

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ldhr

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PostTue May 16, 17 7:11 am     Reply with quote

Try your local hardware store. A decent store will have a whole section of drawers filled with assortment of nuts and bolts.
Take your foil with you to insure the bolts are the correct size and thread pattern.
Make sure the bolts screw in all the way - if you have the wrong size thread they'll screw in for a few turns and then get tight.
The correct size bolt will easily screw in all the way.
I spent $12 for 6 of these type bolts.
Make sure you buy stainless steel bolts.

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wylieflyote

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PostTue May 16, 17 7:17 am    Re: crackmaster Reply with quote

Ho-Toe wrote:

And I second what Matt says about Lano-cote. It smells like mutton (it's made of lanolin and beeswax), but it works better than anything I've found for preventing galling.


Thank You! And thanks to MattV. I've been using "Never Seize" or something that is graphite based. Now when I screw things in, I get sh*t on my fingers, and black marks on my kites.

"Smells like mutton" Smile Retired Wa State bridge maintenance. Back in the the day we used "Sheep dip" for coating cables on lift-span bridges. The instant you opened the drum of Sheep Dip everything stunk like this for weeks and weeks.... even your home life after a shower.

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Sasquatch

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PostTue May 16, 17 7:30 am    Snopp Dogg uses DEEZ NUTS Reply with quote

Matt V wrote:
. . .

You could also get some tee-nuts. . .


And if you are looking for DEEZ NUTS here you go.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4rk8p_deeez-nuuuts-dr-dre-the-chronic_music

Great post. A suggested song to listen to on the way to the hardware store. If in PDX, OR, I've found stainless screws and other helpful boating/sailing/kiting gear (like sail repair tape etc etc, rope/cord) at West Marine.

https://www.westmarine.com/

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Chipotle

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PostTue May 16, 17 7:41 am     Reply with quote

They're all M8x1.25 in varying lengths. Basic countersunk SS fasteners. Most small local hardware stores however will not have stainless metric machine screws, but I've found them on McMaster and I'm sure larger stores would have them.

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Ho-Toe

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PostTue May 16, 17 8:33 am    mutton, honey Reply with quote

Wiley wrote: "Smells like mutton"

A former coworker waterproofed his leather workboots with Lanocote. When he walked thru the meal line later that day, everybody thought we were having freezer-burned mutton for dinner... Very Happy

Re: local hardware store stainless, if you are going to be riding in salt, be careful--usually the local hardware shops don't stock 316 stainless. It's usually a less corrosion-resistant (and cheaper and Chinese) alloy.

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bwd

Since 04 Aug 2007
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PostTue May 16, 17 8:58 am     Reply with quote

I bought a used zeeko foil for my paipo and have similar interests.
On the Tee nuts front, I searched a bit but was impatient so followed Jim Stringfellow's advice and went with standard 1/4-20 brad hole tee nuts I luckily found at a big box store.
After mounting the foil to 5/16" holes I secured nuts to deck with epoxy globs.
Next day removed foil and reinserted vaseline coated screws, then dripped some epoxy into the overbored holes from bottom. A little masking tape on the nonengaged screw shafts and board bottom saves mess etc.

So now i have to use 3 metric hex keys and one std one to assemble.
Ultimately would love to switch to m8 bolts for plate and source screws to allow one or two tool assembly. It's a dream that may never be realized though...

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DavidT

Since 30 Oct 2010
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PostTue May 16, 17 5:13 pm     Reply with quote

Wow, thanks for all the answers! Thanks for the tip about Lanocote and the actual bolt size. I've downloaded DEEZ NUTZ so I can jam on the way to the hardware store 😆
Cheers everyone

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