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MikeZ
Since 17 Jul 2012
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Beaverton / Seaside / Govy
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 Wed May 06, 15 5:24 pm Re: completely opposite |
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| garden wrote: | | I dont often go off on a rant:) but I would like to shake the hand of whomever cut down that tree and tell him thank you. That tree has been a pain in the ass as long as I have been kiting in Stevenson. Whoever says that tree never caused any problems is just plain DUMB. Y'all are idiots if for crying over a troublesome tree. |
I think we've found our Paul Bunyan wanna-be. Any guesses as to the real identity?
I hope you never go to Hawaii to kite. With those narrow beaches, the palm and pine trees are always in the way. And all that damn coral - that shit is sharp. Why don't we dynamite or dredge it all up?
And don't get me started on sharks, Portuguese man-o-wars, and jellyfish...
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stringy
Since 23 Jun 2006
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vancouver
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| Wed May 06, 15 5:33 pm |
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the tree is symbolic of the stevenson launch.
some kiters don't kite here because of the difficult launch and wind shadows. I respect that. just go somewhere else and kite.
it amazes me what some humans think they can do.
anyhow before deciding the fate of the tree, is it for sure going to need to be cut down? I'm no tree expert, but possibly a steel sleeve around it's trunk to maintain it's shape until it grows back? like I said I'm no expert, but it warrants confirming with a tree specialist. and yes it's a privilege to kite here knowing its property of the port. hoping those responsible see the highest penalty/fine possible for their actions.
I'm willing to contribute whether its time or money to helping plant a new tree.
as for tony, this guy does more for the town of stevenson and kiting than anyone else I know of (well except maybe dangler coming down and launching us all the time...) no reason to attack tony.
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dangler
Since 26 Feb 2006
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| Wed May 06, 15 5:55 pm Garden is a punk ass coward |
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I dreaded even going down to look at it, but its not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. From the little I know about such things, its savable. More of the outer layers of a pine are dead and sacrificial, how the big guys survive forest fires.
Aside from the one post chump, I can't see a kiter vandalizing such an iconic landmark. It was done with a handsaw, and I strongly suspect local young punks. Probably the same 12 y.o. future state incarceree I saw running away from the floating dock after he poked a hole in each one. He still had the stick in his hand!
Everyone who kites at Stevenson this summer will be required to pass a polygraph test, just to make sure we eliminate any chance of a psychopathic a-hole thinking he can benefit from said a-hole action. DANGLER ON THE CASE!!!
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Jonpnw
Since 22 Jul 2010
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| Wed May 06, 15 6:12 pm Kook |
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Kook Ass Move . I hope this person is caught and permanently banned from all publicly owned recreational kiteboarding spots. It is a shame the port we needs to waste money chasing and repairing damage from a vandal .
Garden : your either a troll or a very unstable person , please seek professional help.
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consumer
Since 28 Nov 2010
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| Wed May 06, 15 6:13 pm |
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this is very sad news...
looks like the season is back in full force with our new version of DanK and Proktor.
sigh..
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D-Krep It Kiter
Since 18 Jul 2011
417 Posts
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| Wed May 06, 15 6:20 pm |
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| What a shame. That's a great shade tree and really didn't interfere with the launch. It was also the honor system lost & found depo. I wouldn't hold out too much hope of it being salvaged, but if its not too deep, it might be possible. Pretty appalling behavior and Garden's attitude.
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user124
Since 02 Aug 2012
390 Posts
Portland
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| Wed May 06, 15 6:26 pm |
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| consumer wrote: | this is very sad news...
looks like the season is back in full force with our new version of DanK and Proktor.
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I had the same thought about this "Gardner" troll and the infamous DanK and Proktor.
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tonyb
Since 09 Oct 2006
973 Posts
Stevenson in the summer & SPI in the winter
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| Wed May 06, 15 6:39 pm |
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Hey Gardner get your facts straight. I don't leave my trailer or my car down at the launch. I show up to kite near the end of the day, close out the evening session and take all my stuff home. After I go around cleaning up the launch area, picking up trash and collecting lost gear.
If you were bothered by that tree then you shouldn't be launching there. I've never had any trouble with it and any half way decent kiter can figure out how to work with the little wind shadow it creates. Yeah it's difficult to work around on east winds but it's not worth cutting the tree down for.
Who ever did this is just plain selfish.
Tony
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Justsmile
Since 20 Jul 2009
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| Wed May 06, 15 9:35 pm |
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This sucks. I could use the fire wood. I will volunteer my saw and time to cut it up if need be so the port has no lost time or money on the cut down!!
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HoodRat
Since 30 Mar 2008
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| Wed May 06, 15 10:54 pm |
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what a dick move
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fisherman
Since 06 Aug 2007
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| Thu May 07, 15 3:53 am |
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| On the other hand, can you imagine the view? To be able to see the beauty of the river unobstructed? Let's stay positive!
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kt
Since 16 Mar 2005
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Portland, Or
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| Thu May 07, 15 8:35 am Re: completely opposite |
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Wow garden, you have a great point. I mean that guy Tony, he does nothing for this sport. I bet he never organized an event, never gave you a smile on the water, never lent you a piece of gear. Probably never launched your kite. The way he just takes and takes and takes. He does nothing for the kiteboarding image really.
Now you, with your anonymous one post and argo attitude. Man, you are someone I really want to hang out with.
And that damn tree! I mean, nature getting in the way of what we want and how fast we want it. I mean come on, you probably had to walk about 10 feet to get around the thing. It never provided the kids and viewers any shade or a way to hang your wetsuit up or any kind of community. It just takes and takes and takes. Should have been cut down long ago to accommodate someone as great as yourself.
| garden wrote: | I dont often go off on a rant:) but I would like to shake the hand of whomever cut down that tree and tell him thank you. That tree has been a pain in the ass as long as I have been kiting in Stevenson. Whoever says that tree never caused any problems is just plain DUMB. Y'all are idiots if for crying over a troublesome tree.
P.S. Why is Tony bitchen? The guy leaves his trailer in the prime parking lot spaces so he doesn't have to pack up his gear and take it home like everyone else. This takes away one of the few spots where we can actually park. Figure it out. |
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Pete
Since 29 Oct 2007
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| Thu May 07, 15 9:11 am |
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| stringy wrote: |
anyhow before deciding the fate of the tree, is it for sure going to need to be cut down? I'm no tree expert, but possibly a steel sleeve around it's trunk to maintain it's shape until it grows back? like I said I'm no expert, but it warrants confirming with a tree specialist. |
This is the most intelligent thing that has been said on this thread. Someone needs to get a tree specialist out there to see if it can be saved. I think it is likely that it can be.
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JimmyH
Since 06 Mar 2012
116 Posts
United States
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| Thu May 07, 15 9:19 am Tree Vandal |
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| What a bizarre action. I inspected the tree yesterday and it can not be saved. While tragic, no one died and we can all deal with this. Whoever you are "chainsaw massacre", you will be found out. As far as anyone else who may have a problem with that park, go find a place that works for you and take your bad energy elsewhere, that includes you "Garden" post.
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Surfwind
Since 24 Jul 2013
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| Thu May 07, 15 9:27 am |
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| Quote: | | This is the most intelligent thing that has been said on this thread. Someone needs to get a tree specialist out there to see if it can be saved. I think it is likely that it can be. |
 Smart advice here. As a former tree farm/landscape employee... the tree may live for many more years depending on extent of the damage. The root system will not decay immediately and the bank will be safe for possibly many years to come. These things take time so if the tree does need to be replaced there is plenty of time as replacement will be more ideal in the fall.
A tree spade probably won't be able to remove the whole tree, but most likely the stump removal and new tree to replace it would be possible via spade.
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wylieflyote
Since 30 Jun 2006
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Puget Sound & Wa. Coast
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| Thu May 07, 15 9:29 am |
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| Pete wrote: | | stringy wrote: |
anyhow before deciding the fate of the tree, is it for sure going to need to be cut down? I'm no tree expert, but possibly a steel sleeve around it's trunk to maintain it's shape until it grows back? like I said I'm no expert, but it warrants confirming with a tree specialist. |
This is the most intelligent thing that has been said on this thread. Someone needs to get a tree specialist out there to see if it can be saved. I think it is likely that it can be. |
We've had plenty of arborist time here at home, which also included much lawyer time (Damn neighbors!). Someone qualified needs to obviously look at it... but if the bark down to the "cambrian" layer has been 360 degree severed... it's not hopeful:
https://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071229233025AAZj7MZ
"in time (shortly) the leaves will wilt and the plant will use up any reserves it already had in the top part of it and the tree will die.
basically the tree takes nutrients and some of the moisture up through the phloem (located just inside the outer bark).
if this is severed completely (or almost completely) around, it's unable to sustain itself."
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dangler
Since 26 Feb 2006
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| Thu May 07, 15 9:45 am wanton and deliberate |
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Yeah, the poor tree is a goner. It's called "girdling", by cutting thru the cambriam layer beneath the bark all the way round, this asshole has destroyed the tree's vascular system.
Congratulations Asshat, you've destroyed a magnificent work of nature 25 years in the making. Proudly take your place with the great cultural destroyers of our time, the Maoists, ISIS, jihadists, POL POT, et al. You have earned your place in the annals (read ANUS) of our brief history on this planet.
I will commit whatever resources I can to assure that the tree is replaced with a LARGER, GRANDER, WIND BLOCKING BEHEMOTH OF A TREE. THEN I WILL TAKE WHAT REMAINS OF THIS GRAND OLD TREE AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR RECTUM YOU FUCKING DIKWAD!!!
And if anyone ever complains about a tree interfering with their air Johnny fix again in my presence, I will shred their kite into bite size pieces and cram it down their throat (in a figurative sense only, as I abhor violence.)
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