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luke
Since 06 Jul 2005
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Tue Apr 14, 15 10:03 am Strapless alternatives |
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Hey I am looking for some strapless advice.
I am having built a new custom kite surf board and wondering which pads to put on it.
This board will be primarily for strapless airs (or at least attempting tricks) and also used for some wave riding.
From what I can gather, the best guys doing big strapless airs are using alternatives to keep the board attached to their feet. Most are using glue while others are using velcro.
The glue type wax is easy to use but can be very messy. I witnessed someone using the glue after they had done a self-rescue. It looked like they had been tarred and feathered, including their bar, lines, and kite.
The velcro does not wear off during the session like glue and it is not messy but, requires the use of booties year-round.
What other pros and cons to these methods have you seen or experienced?
Technique is still important, but has anyone heard of other alternatives?
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ericvs
Since 05 Jul 2008
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C Johnson
Since 17 Apr 2009
853 Posts
Seattle
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Tue Apr 14, 15 12:18 pm |
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I've been really happy with using sticky bumps punt wax rubbed directly on the traction pad that comes with cabrinha boards.
The wax gets down into the pad so it tends to stay in place vs when you rub it on a board without a pad. Its still a little messy but a little citrus based wax remover cleans up any mess pretty quickly. _________________ www.youtube.com/c/christianjohnsons |
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Matt E.
Since 22 May 2008
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Tue Apr 14, 15 7:25 pm |
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Most of us are using horse sperm mixed with surf wax for doing big airs. It is the perfect amount of stickiness and can be found anywhere there are horses. Zebra sperm is the best though, but it can be harder to find. |
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TheKerrKid
Since 02 Jul 2009
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Tue Apr 14, 15 7:43 pm |
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you can see matt E using the wax/zebra sperm combo in this video. As you can see the benefits are quite large.
https://vimeo.com/98834602 _________________ Less fighting more kiting
R.I.P. Jeff Young |
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DROCK999
Since 31 May 2007
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Tue Apr 14, 15 10:33 pm |
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does the type of sperm matter? what about goat sperm? or elephant sperm? _________________ BIP- "YOUR GIRLFRIENDS FAVORITE" |
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hilton
Since 15 Aug 2008
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Thu Apr 16, 15 6:31 am Re: Strapless alternatives |
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luke wrote: | Hey I am looking for some strapless advice.
I am having built a new custom kite surf board and wondering which pads to put on it.
Most are using glue while others are using velcro.
What other pros and cons to these methods have you seen or experienced?
Technique is still important, but has anyone heard of other alternatives?
Thanks. |
I prefer magnets. The steel plate in the pads makes your board a little heavy, but it totally eliminates heel dents. |
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cpc219
Since 12 Jun 2014
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The Dalles
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Thu Apr 16, 15 10:15 am |
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Yes magnets work the best by far. I use an alloy that is the same stuff they use in windmills and it's super light. Then I line my boots with a brass foot sole. Super sticky. |
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Surfwind
Since 24 Jul 2013
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Thu Apr 16, 15 10:37 am |
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Quote: | Yes magnets work the best by far. I use an alloy that is the same stuff they use in windmills and it's super light. Then I line my boots with a brass foot sole. Super sticky. |
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cpc219
Since 12 Jun 2014
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The Dalles
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Thu Apr 16, 15 1:51 pm |
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Just teasin dude. The only way to do strapless airs is to go fast and send it. No one uses glue or velcro or anything else except some good old surf wax. If they do than they're a kook. Monkey wax is the best. Get some speed, nut up, and yank on the bar. |
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Da Yoda
Since 12 Mar 2009
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Fri Apr 17, 15 5:22 pm |
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Quote: | From what I can gather, the best guys doing big strapless airs are using alternatives to keep the board attached to their feet. Most are using glue while others are using velcro. |
Back in my days of skimboarding there used to be this product called Sector Deck. It was a velcro boot&pad combo. Here's a vid showing it off...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyEcJ0jhE_I |
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C Johnson
Since 17 Apr 2009
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Seattle
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Fri Apr 17, 15 9:13 pm |
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Ken, just keep the bottom of the board facing into the wind.
Punt wax plus booties helps me cheat a little to get extra traction.
Find a piece of chop, bring your kite up to noon pop and keep your kite pointing the direction you're moving. If you sent it too far you'll get pulled off your board. It helps and looks cool if you kick your back leg up and out and push against the wind during the jump. _________________ www.youtube.com/c/christianjohnsons |
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1surfer
Since 20 Apr 2010
354 Posts
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Sat Apr 18, 15 9:13 am Ambergris |
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This young man uses a combination of Ambergris and Telepathy.
http://kiteworldmag.com/video/emmet-sproul-strapless-in-maui/
The Telepathy is acquired with much practice at a very young age. It starts with long hours of sleep developing lucid dreaming techniques. A great example of this particular type of telepathy used with non human entities can be seen in the Don Johnson movie, A Boy and His Dog. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072730/
The Ambergris must be harvested from a living sperm whale. In this case the rider shown here harvested the fresh ambergris from a young sperm whale that was ailing and actively being eaten by a tribe of Tiger Sharks off of Olowau at the 135' drop off. The harvest was completed without the use of tanks or malasadas.
The combination of Ambergris and Telepathy is a closely guarded secret. When mixed and applied correctly if forms an unbreakable bond.
OR, you can do it how the people who are actually good at it do it, and use NOTHNG. _________________ Ozone Reo's. C&k Beach Boy Service, Windsurfing Waikiki, Hawaiian Windriders, NSRN. |
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hilton
Since 15 Aug 2008
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Sun Jul 12, 15 8:17 am |
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cpc219 wrote: | Yes magnets work the best by far. I use an alloy that is the same stuff they use in windmills and it's super light. Then I line my boots with a brass foot sole. Super sticky. |
Look for this on kickstarter soon.
http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2389442&p=893911 |
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