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mocorroco
Since 02 Jul 2006
30 Posts
Omaha NE
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Tue Jan 02, 07 7:45 pm Snowkite |
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I want to start snowkiting. I have a 9m Yarga and some other bigger kites. Is the 9m Yarga to big for snowkiting?. Should I get a foilkite instead?. Thanks
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WOLVER1NE
Since 17 Apr 2006
2 Posts
Tapps Island, WA
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Tue Jan 02, 07 10:36 pm |
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My brother lives in MN and goes snow kiting all the time. He has a 20m that he uses on the frozen lakes. I think he said he uses that for up to 20-30 winds??? The amount of drag the board has against the snow is more than the amount required through water. (increases with the snow depth) plus take into account you might be going uphill if you are on a slope instead of a flat patch. If you are on flat ice without snow (like we were over christmas) not to much drag on that!!
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Kataku2k3
Since 14 Aug 2005
3753 Posts
Los Angeles, CA
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Tue Jan 02, 07 11:48 pm |
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20m in 20-30? That doesn't sound right... and either does the amount of drag. Water vs. snow? Small board (kiteboard) vs. big board (snowboard)? Hmmm
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Kataku2k3
Since 14 Aug 2005
3753 Posts
Los Angeles, CA
Videographer
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Tue Jan 02, 07 11:50 pm |
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That 9m will probably do you just fine in the right wind... Might want to figure out something for relaunch though if you already don't have a 5th line setup. That's when ATL on the SS kites is nice.
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Chris B
Since 25 Sep 2006
7 Posts
Kook
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Wed Jan 03, 07 7:08 am |
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I’m the guy from MN. I just read my brothers post and just wanted to clarify. It’s a 17.5 machine and in great conditions I will ride it up until 20 mph. With snowkiting it really depends on the surface and the temperature. There is a huge difference between black ice and dust on crust. To give wind speeds for kitting on snow is tough. As a general rule if your skis or snowboard will get a good edge rig one size smaller than you would in the summer. If you’re on black ice with hockey skates rig small because it’s tough to stop when you’re on your ass.
I use the 17.5 machine more than any other kite for snowkiting in MN.
17.5 machine 8-20 mph
13 Fuel 15-25 mph
9 Fuel 20-30+
7 Fuel (lit on snow gets gnarly)
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Chris B
Since 25 Sep 2006
7 Posts
Kook
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Wed Jan 03, 07 7:22 am |
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An SS ATL or fifth line is a must on snow. The kite will not roll on its back, it will just slide around. The fifth line can be tied to the leading edge or the tailpipe of the struts. If you tie it to the tailpipe it will reverse launch the kite.
I have used the SS ATL and the fifth line. Both work great and each has there advantages. The ATL will get the kite off the snow faster thus reducing the amount of wear to the leading edge. But you get more adjustment from a fifth line.
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Chris B
Since 25 Sep 2006
7 Posts
Kook
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Wed Jan 03, 07 9:35 am |
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Yes you are correct Kataku2k3, he wrote that backwards. You can get going in snow on a very small kite but as you get better you can handle as much power as you would in the summer depending on the surface texture. As the snow gets deeper or sticky you will need a bigger kite.
I almost forgot about ice-screws! When on a frozen lake and the surface is hard or smooth you need something to tether the kite too. Ice-screws are what ice climbers use. They twist into a frozen block of ice with almost no effort.
Old school Alex Peterson
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shymac
Since 20 Jul 2005
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Home Valley, Wa.
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Wed Jan 03, 07 2:01 pm |
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Old school Alex, KILLER Was that Alex in the Air taking a picture down at all you!.. . NICE PICTURES
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Chris B
Since 25 Sep 2006
7 Posts
Kook
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Wed Jan 03, 07 2:49 pm |
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I think it was Alex or Nik (Alex’s brother) from a paraglider.
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