jump vs trick

tinyE · Since 21 Jan 2006 2004 Posts not really an XTreme Poster

i was curious what the difference in take-off is for a trick, say a roll or mobe or something...

Kataku2k3 · Since 14 Aug 2005 3753 Posts Los Angeles, CA Videographer

Not that I know what I'm talking about or anything... but are you just talking about popping and then starting a rotation? That's what I've been working on more lately, and for some reason I still suck. Crying or Very sad

tinyE · Since 21 Jan 2006 2004 Posts not really an XTreme Poster

well.. i come from a boat discipline where it's important to focus on the jump, and then the trick. I think i have the jumps down on the kite, and am interested in a front or back roll... just wondering what is different about the take off. In other words, jump then flip.

i don't go very high right now, so assume wake style tricks... would that mean it is a lot like a wakeboard back roll?

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6548 Posts Couve / Hood Site Lackey

With the backroll you usually start the rotation with leaving the water (which is easy to do because you are edging away from the kite anyway.) With a frontroll you get the pop then start the rotation. I used to think frontrolls were harder for this reason, but now that I do them more I think frontrolls are easier to time than backrolls.

Inept_Fun · Since 14 Apr 2005 1417 Posts Hood River XTreme Poster

yeah to do a backroll all you really have to do is hop and look over your back shoulder, you come around pretty easy, doing frontrolls you have to pop then swing into the rotation, but once you get it down, both are easy.

Hein · Since 08 Mar 2005 1313 Posts Possessed

I think it looks better if you can get a big pop,
go up a bit, do the rotation, complete it, stall,
then stick it. -only in my dreams.

Sol-flyer · Mon Nov 13, 06 7:03 pm

so i got a couple of questions...

a lot of the time my backrolls come out looking like a side-ways flip. so for a more vertical flip i need to drop the kite down closer to the water?
and when doing a frontroll i seem to stall out halfway. should i be trying to "swing" under the kite like when doing a backroll? or do i try to tuck the shoulder more?

also, today was my first attempt at kiteloops Very Happy

what i'm trying is a backroll while sending the kite overhead and into a loop. should i be un-hooked?
the first few came out clean...then carnage...came down on my shoulder and broke my dang goggles. it funny but for some reason i felt more comfortable on the snow....but it still hurt Wink

blowhard · Since 26 Dec 2005 2025 Posts Windward

backrolls are just a matter of looking back when you come off the water and let the water push you backwards ,
frontrolls happen after you leave the water and if not enough spin on one throw your back arm and tuck up to help rotation if too much drop your legs and spread out your body to slow you down think ice skater and how fast they spin when tucked and slow when the spread out .
multiple spins are higher jumps with more body thrust ,
bigger boards also carry a lot energy and twisting your legs uses your boards energy as well