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				quenyaistar
			
			 
			
				  
				Since 21 Oct 2011 
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				I read somewhere yesterday, I think it was 2010 top 10 most polluted rivers in america, that mentioned the pollution was down 2+% thats good I guess.
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				Nak
			
			 
			
				  
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				Absolutely the Columbia needs to be cleaner. But it's not anywhere even near as bad as it could get if people stopped fighting to protect it. I guess what worries me is that if people think it really is one of the worst rivers in the world, then gee it's not too bad. What's all the fuss about water pollution? Here's some rivers that are bad. Keep fighting so that the Columbia never looks like these: http://www.weather.com/news/science/environment/worlds-most-polluted-rivers-20130627
 
 
Of course, it would make economic sense to let companies dump whatever they want in to the river. What jerks we are for wanting to keep the river clean. We must just want to make it tougher on the poor people.   
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				mazzi
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 28 Jul 2008 
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				Columbia Riverkeepers conducted a rivernose study in 2010. 69% of the samples contained five time more pathogentic bateria than the safe standard. The collected samples at Bob' Beach, Doug's, Event Site, The Wall, and Roosevelt. Fact sheet can be found here:
 
 http://columbiariverkeeper.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crk-river-nose-fact-sheet-mar-2011-31.pdf
 
 
In terms of other water quality standards, the Columbia is actualy generaly good. EPA recently conducted a study (2009) of the lower-middle Columbia from Stevenson past Arlington. All samples met water quality standars for recreational use. But you might not want to eat the fish, especialy suckers and bass. Super high levels of mercury, DDT, and PCBs. The highest levels were measured from fish on the Hood River...way higher than fish on the mainstem and all way above safe consuption levels (some 10-20 times above safe levels).
 
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www.deq.state.or.us/lab/wqm/docs/2009%20columbia%20REMAP%20final%20report_DEQ_complete.pdf
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				pauls
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 20 Jun 2005 
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				My river nose has gradually got worse and worse over the 18 years since i moved here. 5 years ago a good rinse and maybe a Benadryl worked now sinuses swell up and completely unable to breath through nose, can't sleep, miserable for days, etc, etc. Visited ENT, tried saline, various prescription and OTC drugs with varying effect. Kayak nose clip is now the only thing that works but works so well i don't bother with all the meds and rinses. Buy the clips a couple at a time and loop them on seaspecs or a wetsuit zipper pull. Clip on and off just while out on the water. Annoying for a couple of minutes then forget about it.
 
Complete opposite of going to the coast, there getting a good pounding does wonders for my sinuses - best cure for a cold i know!
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				Jonpnw
			
			 
			
				  
				Since 22 Jul 2010 
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				 Sat Jun 20, 15 8:03 am    Any one else ? | 
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				Getting my ass kicked by  something fierce .
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				Gman
			
			 
			
				  
				Since 11 Feb 2006 
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				ShiverMeTimbers
			
			 
			
				  
				Since 26 Feb 2013 
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				 Sat Jun 20, 15 10:47 pm    Re: Any one else ? | 
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				 	  | Jonpnw wrote: | 	 		  | Getting my ass kicked by  something fierce . | 	  
 
 
yup, me too. sore throat, nasal drip, respiratory.  Thought I was getting better, went on a mellow mtn bike ride, now its worse. Been going on/off for over 2 weeks.    
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				lubomm
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 15 Aug 2007 
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				| I get river nose periodically. But I also get similar symptoms from skiing too. The last time a couple of weeks ago as immediate short term relief to get through the night I slept with a nose strip and my winter hat. It helped. Long term I plan to try the neti pot. I had no issues with my nose when kiting in the ocean either.
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				skilja
			
			 
			
				 
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				| Seldom kite HR or the Gorge now, but after KB4C last year I hit the jumps and dunked under for a while when my kite went down. An hour or two later I basically had an asthma attack in a parking lot. I don't have asthma or bad allergies. Folks were going to take me to the hospital until someone handed me their inhaler. Straight up couldn't breathe. Never had this problem at Jones, Stevenson, Lake Washington, Sherman Island, or any other fresh water spots (or saltwater)... just Hood River. Maybe severity is proportional to the amount of Columbia water inhaled?
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				markamcclure
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 20 May 2011 
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				| Went kiting at event site 4x last week and no problems. Swallowed some water at sauvie yesterday and had some nasty river nose last night.
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				lance_k
			
			 
			
				  
				Since 04 May 2005 
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				hey anybody come up with some solution to this? i've got the drip cough snot bad. it's up in my ears even.
 
 
neti pots don't help me. and seem to actually make it worse shuving more water up there.
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				markamcclure
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 20 May 2011 
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				I have started wearing nose plugs even though they are a PITA it’s worth it to not be all congested.
 
 
Nettie pot, pure saline spray and allergy meds help, too.
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				shred_da_gorge
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 12 Nov 2008 
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				I'm having it worse this year than last, and mainly when wing-foiling, but I think that's because I fall a LOT and almost always dunk straight in. For the past year I've been using Neil Med sinus rinse bottles, and it seems to help clear it up, especially in the eve or morn after a session. I also started taping my mouth shut when I sleep (to force nose breathing to help fight sleep apnea), and if my nose is stuffed then I first walk and hold my breath to clear it (a technique I learned from Patrick McKeown's "The Oxygen Advantage").
 
 
Any recommendations on nose plugs, or should I just grab something at Walmart? I've seen a few folks wearing them and it sounds worth a try.
 
 
Oh, yeah, I'm getting it at Stevie, Viento, Hood River, Rufus... doesn't seem to matter.
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				markamcclure
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 20 May 2011 
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				pauls
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 20 Jun 2005 
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				 Fri Aug 23, 24 4:26 am     | 
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				I suffered miserably with river nose from kiting in the Gorge gradually got worse and worse over the years. ENT gave me all sorts of different stuff to try in addition to neti pots etc. I tried nose clips but hated them Sinus saver nose plugs were far and away the most effective and  comfortable solution once you find the right size they stay in with no problems and dont need a tether. The ultimate solution that has worked great - move to ocean  
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				windpig
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 28 Aug 2008 
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				AKA, Canadian windsport starter pack.
	
  
		
		
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				lubomm
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 15 Aug 2007 
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				| I use the Nasopure kit daily morning and evening year round. After big wipeouts I sometimes do 3/4 times per day. It works for me. I too do not have these issues when kiting in the ocean.
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