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Onad

Since 04 Mar 2005
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PostTue Jul 11, 06 2:56 pm    Kite Formula Reply with quote

Kite Tech:

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Kataku2k3

Since 14 Aug 2005
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PostTue Jul 11, 06 3:08 pm     Reply with quote

Cool stuff Dano! Thumb's Up Definately wanna play with some numbers when I get some time.

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J.P.

Since 10 Mar 2005
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PostTue Jul 11, 06 3:11 pm     Reply with quote

are those for a: bucket, flat or hybrid kite?

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Wind Slither

Since 04 Mar 2005
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PostTue Jul 11, 06 6:38 pm     Reply with quote

if I wanted to learn, I'd go to school

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EdG

Since 19 Dec 2005
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PostWed Jul 12, 06 7:19 am     Reply with quote

once my brain stops hurting, I'll dive deep into it?!?! Thanks for the info.

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Onad

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PostWed Jul 12, 06 7:28 am     Reply with quote

Drunk LHS Senior Year

Laughing
Wind Slither wrote:
if I wanted to learn, I'd go to school
Laughing

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BigR

Since 05 Jul 2005
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PostWed Jul 12, 06 7:32 am     Reply with quote

Those numbers are for C-kites otherwise the approximation doesn't work

example c kite:

kite size m2 + wind velocity knots = 32

Since I am good and heavier I'll opt for +4 or 36 sooooo

m2 + knots = 36; if its 30 knts then: m2 + 30 = 36 or m2 = 6m2 kite

Okay , I'll say I can work a 6m2 c kite in 30 kts

BUT, at 30 kts I can also be on a 9m2 or bigger Bow flat kite easily

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blowhard

Since 26 Dec 2005
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PostWed Jul 12, 06 7:58 am    this kiter not that smart, will stick with HYBRID Reply with quote

Glad this doensn't apply to me on my HYBRID

VERY SMUG IN FLORENCE on my BESTY
Now I just gotta have a PRIUS

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barfly

Since 31 Mar 2005
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PostWed Jul 12, 06 8:13 am    Re: this kiter not that smart, will stick with HYBRID Reply with quote

blowhard wrote:
Glad this doensn't apply to me on my HYBRID

VERY SMUG IN FLORENCE on my BESTY
Now I just gotta have a PRIUS


Dood. It's blowin SW today, keep your smug in your pants until it goes back to NW. It belongs well South of us. Laughing

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Hein

Since 08 Mar 2005
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PostWed Jul 12, 06 8:21 am     Reply with quote

The assumption of a constant 12kt board speed pretty much
makes the whole chart worthless.

My rule of thumb...

What's everyone else on? Subtract 2 kite sizes. Go rip.

wanna know my secret????

I get my power from v squared!

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pdxmonkeyboy

Since 16 May 2006
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PostWed Jul 12, 06 8:24 am     Reply with quote

My head hurts now. Confused

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Kataku2k3

Since 14 Aug 2005
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PostWed Jul 12, 06 8:58 am     Reply with quote

I ride @ 15kts, Hein rides @ 225kts!!! Thumb's Up

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Hein

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PostWed Jul 12, 06 10:18 am     Reply with quote

What's the square root of 2?

1.41

That means a kite going 41% faster
gives as much lift as a kite 2 times bigger.

So if you're going 12kts on your 17
and I can ride at 17 knots using
my low drag board then I can be on
a 9.

-Hein

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Onad

Since 04 Mar 2005
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PostWed Jul 12, 06 10:26 am     Reply with quote

Yah Hein, this stuff is a bit dated, but still interesting to ponder.

Knew you’d give us the rocket scientist review.

As always, thanks for the comments & insight, Dano

Hein wrote:
The assumption of a constant 12kt board speed pretty much makes the whole chart worthless.

wanna know my secret????

I get my power from v squared!

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pkh

Since 27 Feb 2005
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Couve / Hood
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PostWed Jul 12, 06 10:36 am     Reply with quote

Onad Rednaxela wrote:
Yah Hein, this stuff is a bit dated, but still interesting to ponder.


Yeah it was written pre-Hein technology, dem boards are speedy! Very Happy

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Hein

Since 08 Mar 2005
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PostWed Jul 12, 06 10:55 am     Reply with quote

It was Hein bait. Thanks for the opportunity.

Not rocket science though. It's just basic algebra.

The key here is not to try to put values in the formula
and come up with an answer. Instead, take a look at the
terms and see how changing the value effects the result.

Since the velocity is squared (multiplied by itself) then
increasing it makes the lift increase much more dramatically
than an increase in area (which has no multiplier).

Math lesson over.

-Hein

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blowhard

Since 26 Dec 2005
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PostThu Jul 13, 06 7:24 am    Barfly Reply with quote

Hey ,
alls I gotta do is switch my cheap shit Da-Kine pads the other way and I all over dem southerlies

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