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Blue

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PostWed Jul 22, 09 9:50 pm     Reply with quote

Kites are not expensive. Just learn how to steal like Wall Street fat cats, and you will be buying one for each of your sessions.

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PostWed Jul 22, 09 9:57 pm    yeah Reply with quote

Kitestock i smell a festival :|not to be confused with slingstock which is a kick ass jamboree Very Happy

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PostWed Jul 22, 09 10:02 pm     Reply with quote

THE ANSWERE TO YOUR QUESTION IS THAT YOUR QUESTION IS FUCKING STUPID Laughing Laughing AND WE REALLY DON'T GIVE A SHIT, BECAUSE OF THE RUSH THAT A PERSON FEELS ONCE THEY HAVE LEARNED THIS SPORT. Twisted Evil .THE WHOLE COMBO OF SPORTS THAT ARE IN KITING IS GREAT, WE SHOULD ALL TAKE TIME TO PAY TRIBUTE TO THE FOUNDERS OF THIS SPORT AND THE ONES WHO PUT OUT MONEY FROM THE POCKETS OF THE PANTS THEY WEAR TO GET US WHERE WE ALL ARE TODAY.... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil ...TROLL

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PostWed Jul 22, 09 10:12 pm     Reply with quote

jahmbi wrote:
THE ANSWERE TO YOUR QUESTION IS THAT YOUR QUESTION IS FUCKING STUPID Laughing Laughing AND WE REALLY DON'T GIVE A SHIT, BECAUSE OF THE RUSH THAT A PERSON FEELS ONCE THEY HAVE LEARNED THIS SPORT. Twisted Evil .THE WHOLE COMBO OF SPORTS THAT ARE IN KITING IS GREAT, WE SHOULD ALL TAKE TIME TO PAY TRIBUTE TO THE FOUNDERS OF THIS SPORT AND THE ONES WHO PUT OUT MONEY FROM THE POCKETS OF THE PANTS THEY WEAR TO GET US WHERE WE ALL ARE TODAY.... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil ...TROLL
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PostWed Jul 22, 09 10:13 pm     Reply with quote

lineman wrote:
Ya ok salmon slayer, how about retaillers pay 600.00 bucks for a kite then sell it for 1800.00 . Thats where the problem is, I say cut out the middle man. Evil or Very Mad


Bingo! You all would crap your pants if you knew the true cost of each one of these kites straight from the factory... And remember, the company is making a nice profit even after they sell in to the retailers at wholesale. True cost is cheeeeeeap! LOTS OF MARKUP IN KITES! Reatailers really dont make that much on the kites after all the buddy dealing.

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Pepi

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PostWed Jul 22, 09 10:13 pm     Reply with quote

lineman wrote:
Ya ok salmon slayer, how about retaillers pay 600.00 bucks for a kite then sell it for 1800.00 . Thats where the problem is, I say cut out the middle man. Evil or Very Mad


Now that sounds awesome!!! Which brand do I need to contact to get kites at that price and where are the people who will buy them at that retail price?

I knew we were doing something wrong.

You are so smart!!

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bulae99

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PostThu Jul 23, 09 5:14 am    If your smart you can find some really good deals... Reply with quote

Right now there are some incredible deals on kites. There is a 10 RPM for $800 bucks?? You can get a new td 3 for very low prices.

Once you get one kite your set. Let's say you pay 1000 retail for a kite with a good warranty.

Some kites even have no questions asked warranty.

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Mike Hawk

Since 20 Mar 2006
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PostThu Jul 23, 09 5:59 am     Reply with quote

Pepi wrote:
lineman wrote:
Ya ok salmon slayer, how about retaillers pay 600.00 bucks for a kite then sell it for 1800.00 . Thats where the problem is, I say cut out the middle man. Evil or Very Mad


Now that sounds awesome!!! Which brand do I need to contact to get kites at that price and where are the people who will buy them at that retail price?

I knew we were doing something wrong.

You are so smart!!


Um that would be BEST kites Rolling Eyes

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tstansbury

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PostThu Jul 23, 09 6:59 am     Reply with quote

thats why all the local shop owners are showing up in their new mercedes.

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blowhard

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PostThu Jul 23, 09 7:05 am     Reply with quote

tstansbury wrote:
thats why all the local shop owners are showing up in their new mercedes.


ya,
why don't these econ genius's start running things so we can all be rich
instead just of earning $$$
while being under the "mans" foot
oppressive ,exploiters of the downtrodden masses
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stevegriffith22

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PostThu Jul 23, 09 8:30 am     Reply with quote

on a more serious note, take tony's advise. Take a ECON 101 class. Bottom line is,

materials are expensive, not enough people kite to make production and material cost cheap, local advertising cost money, there really aren't enough publications that it matters which manufactues hit, still have to sell on a regional basis, blah blah blah. In the end, were s a super small industry, making a small amount of product and the cost of doing buiesness is increaseing. Did I say where a small industry?

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craz z

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PostThu Jul 23, 09 9:12 am     Reply with quote

Kites are expensive for only the same reasons others have already stated.
Supply and Demand.

The supply is limited very limited. Most have to preorder their kites and then they are made and you get them. Those that are on the shelf the good ones go fast and the fufu ones stay there until next year when they go on sale for 50% off.

The demand is growing and I too would love to see the prices come down. and yes the retail price tags are up in the 1800's$ Many dealers have to slash prices cause of the sticker shock.

Bottomline you are either in this sport or you're not. If you're in its a hobby its your funtime and people rarely look at the sticker price when it come to fun.

I try to think of it this way buy everything you ever wanted for kiting 3000-4000$
Buy one boat 15-50,000$
Buy a snowmobile 10,000$
Buy a atv 7,000$
Buy a lift ticket at your favorite ski resort 50-1000$ (for season pass)
buy gas and maintenance on all the above. Priceless

Buy the gear forget the price and realize how much you are really saving by owning this expensive gear.

Until you see kites in walmart this is how it is and will be. and if they do happen to show up in the local walmart. WILL YOU PARTICIPATE?

I quit snowboarding, cause of the rules kiting has none. I'll gladly pay extra for the solitude.

The prices aren't what the costs are and even at 100% markup the kites would barely tip 200-400$ So what its a fun sport and FUN=MONEY MONEY

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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostThu Jul 23, 09 9:18 am     Reply with quote

I'll tell you why kites are so expensive...it's this fucker right here. This is the guy that buys tons of kite market shares and hordes them, thereby driving the price up. He did the same thing in the diamond market, buying and storing millions of diamonds to artificially keep supply low. This is the ugly face behind the betrayal.

Look at that little smirk on his face!!! He has us all by the balls.


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stringy

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PostThu Jul 23, 09 10:00 am     Reply with quote

bustingbladder wrote:


You all would crap your pants if you knew the true cost of each one of these kites straight from the factory....


manufacturing costs are one thing, but you must also consider the overhead, i.e. product development investment (designing and testing), initial tooling costs (injection molded components), promoting the product (adverts, team riders and keeping them happy with kites, travel and whaetever else they supposedly recieve, and supporting events with free shwag).
I am sure this all needs to be factored into the product.
No doubt it is what the market will bear, but all these costs need to be accounted for to determine if the market will still bear the product cost.
Actually I never took any econ classes, but I run a small business.

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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostThu Jul 23, 09 10:06 am     Reply with quote

Ok, its not the koala's that jack up the prices. Its guys from Seattle in pimped out vans that drive the prices up.

Stop developing cool stuff Stringy!!!

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shred_da_gorge

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PostThu Jul 23, 09 10:11 am     Reply with quote

pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
Look at that little smirk on his face!!! He has us all by the balls.

(Thanks Hein; I knew this would come in handy some day!)


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stevegriffith22

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PostThu Jul 23, 09 10:50 am     Reply with quote

There you go stringy, talk to the small buisness owner. Me being a former buisness owner, stringy caught a nerve of mine. Just because my empolyees saw a 10 or 15,ooo$ check each month doesn't mean that i was taking home anything. infact I was ski patroling to pay my second mortgage and pay for advertising so they could keep benefits and get paid on time. Like i said in the start, its the cost of doing buisness that keeps prices high. All the things that stringy said is right. Even if the true cost of the kite is 400 bucks, what about shipping, development the cost of the kite designer which in most cases probaly means that they took a HUGE pay decrease from some airline company or other engineering job. For that matter, businbladder is right too........in the end, its all about buisness. I for one think its insane to pay 1800 for a kite. To me it means that you didn't even consider demo's or used kites. Out side of the gorge and people that are living in a place to kite every day it seems a bit nuts. Take skiing for example, I live at a ski area, and think about how much money in gear I'm wearing......1500 for skis and bindings, 750 for boots, then getting them fitted. Poly ling john top and bottom-100.00, crazy expensive socks so my feet don't turn in to a petry dish, 60.00, gore top and bottom 1000.00 and a insulater, plus 100 for gloves, good eyewear 60-120. oh and they you have to have touing gear, 750.00, then you have to have fat skis ect ect ect.......so to me kiting isn't that bad.

But yes.....damn those seattlites that come in there pimped out vans and spend money in HR on groceries and beer.......Damn those people putting money into your economy. Twisted Evil

Just kidding guys, and for you retailers trying to make it work and stay alive.......MORE POWER TOO YOU!!!!! Good Job! Keep it up. With out you we would all be still standing on the beach watching windsurfers saying .........."I don't get it......"

ARRRGGGG!!!!!!!!

Carry on boys.....

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