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Rico
Since 13 Mar 2005
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Vancouver
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Yahoo got to quote  That nsi pump looks built tough
| Hein wrote: | | Moto wrote: | | What about getting a rubber hose for a regular kite pump - those damn plastic ones keep getting wholes in them. Anyone know where to get a rubber hose? |
Auto parts store or McMaster Carr
NSI and I released a hose kit that featured a 90 degree adapter with a pressure gauge and used a braided hose with machined brass fill a nipple. It was before any kite companies were offering gauges on their pumps. It's not for sale anymore but I still have materials on hand so if you want to stop by I'll make one up for you. |
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Mark
Since 20 Jun 2005
3678 Posts
I need my fix because I'm a
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 7:05 am |
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| Rico wrote: | Yahoo got to quote That nsi pump looks built tough
| Hein wrote: | | Moto wrote: | | What about getting a rubber hose for a regular kite pump - those damn plastic ones keep getting wholes in them. Anyone know where to get a rubber hose? |
Auto parts store or McMaster Carr
NSI and I released a hose kit that featured a 90 degree adapter with a pressure gauge and used a braided hose with machined brass fill a nipple. It was before any kite companies were offering gauges on their pumps. It's not for sale anymore but I still have materials on hand so if you want to stop by I'll make one up for you. |
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kt
Since 16 Mar 2005
761 Posts
Portland, Or
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 7:34 am |
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hey nak,
this sounds great, you have instructions somewhere???
kt
| Nak wrote: | About $20 bucks worth of parts turns a 20oz paintball CO2 tank into a kite pump that will pump up your kite in about 30 seconds... Weighs about 3 pounds filled with CO2, & will fill an 11m and a 7m on one charge. 
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rePete
Since 18 Dec 2007
215 Posts
Mosier, Oregon
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 7:46 am |
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I added 14" of height to my pump with 4" abs pipe, wood foot and some duck tape, works great and cost me almost nothing. If you want to spend the bucks this is the best no hassle pump I have found. http://bravopumps.com/ You'd think some company would come out with a lithium-ion battery pump that would pump to 10 psi. and be lightweight. Oh yeah, the pup was extra.
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Volo
Since 07 Apr 2009
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 7:55 am Volo Kite Pump |
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You may want to look at the Volo Kit Pump -
It uses a CO2 tank and a custom regulator to maximize pumping volume.
You can do about 3 12M kite fills with one 20 OZ tank.
Check it out at www.pumpkiteup.com
Let me know what you think.
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 8:20 am |
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Man, I've got some old paintball tanks, I should look into one of those.
I do recall however that someone did a "study" that looked at people getting injured that had and had not pumped up there kites. It seemed that people using electric pumps were a little more prone to injury from not stretching out. Regardless, I hate pumping up my 14m T2. It takes 176 full pumps to infalte 
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blowhard
Since 26 Dec 2005
2026 Posts
Windward
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 8:59 am |
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| pdxmonkeyboy wrote: | Man, I've got some old paintball tanks, I should look into one of those.
I do recall however that someone did a "study" that looked at people getting injured that had and had not pumped up there kites. It seemed that people using electric pumps were a little more prone to injury from not stretching out. Regardless, I hate pumping up my 14m T2. It takes 176 full pumps to infalte |
just say no to big kites 
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frenchy
Since 03 Mar 2009
88 Posts
Eugene, Florance, Newport, FLoras, Gorge
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dancingwind
Since 18 Jul 2007
321 Posts
Obsessed
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 9:17 am |
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Frenchy, I think the fuller pump should definitely help your back! I can see how much strain all that pumping action can have on the taller than average species!!
May I also suggest a session or two a week with dead lifts in the gym. It will strengthen your legs and back substantially!! You can use dumbbells instead of a barbell. Good luck man!
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
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Camas
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 9:41 am |
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| kt wrote: | hey nak,
this sounds great, you have instructions somewhere???
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| Nak wrote: | About $20 bucks worth of parts turns a 20oz paintball CO2 tank into a kite pump that will pump up your kite in about 30 seconds... Weighs about 3 pounds filled with CO2, & will fill an 11m and a 7m on one charge.
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Hey KT, I'll try and get some photos posted later. The biggest negative is that CO2 leaks through the bladder due to the size of the CO2 molecule. If you fill with straight CO2, you lose about 1 PSI per hour. Works great for short sessions. For longer sessions, you can pre-fill the volume with an electric pump--$20 from Walmart. This reduces the partial pressure of the CO2 to a point where leakage is negligible. It seems like the Volo pump addresses this buy using a venturi to draw in ambient air.
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It uses a CO2 tank and a custom regulator to maximize pumping volume.
You can do about 3 12M kite fills with one 20 OZ tank.
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Hey Tim, could you maybe tell us more about how your pump works? Any chance of adding a pressure gauge to check the pressure in the kite? I know the filling pressure would break the gauge; I use a valve to isolate the gauge while filling...
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 9:51 am |
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| Hey Nak, what about the compressed air tanks for paintball? You can get a 3000 psi 60 cubic inch tank for pretty cheap. I have no idea how many kites that would fill up or how many recharges you could get from one scuba tank though.
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frenchy
Since 03 Mar 2009
88 Posts
Eugene, Florance, Newport, FLoras, Gorge
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 10:01 am |
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I have 10 scuba tanks. every thing from 120 qft. to 13 qft. I even have tha attachments to fill the kite up. But that's not what I'm looking for. I want a portable pump. One that I can carry on my kite bag. For half a mile if I have to. I have a slingshot pump, It's just to short and not as efficient as I would like it to be. I just want one that is twice as tall and more efficient. I don't want to extend it to make it taller. I just want one that is taller in general. One that pumps more air per strokes.
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 10:11 am |
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| frenchy wrote: | | I have 10 scuba tanks. every thing from 120 qft. to 13 qft. I even have tha attachments to fill the kite up. But that's not what I'm looking for. I want a portable pump. One that I can carry on my kite bag. For half a mile if I have to. I have a slingshot pump, It's just to short and not as efficient as I would like it to be. I just want one that is twice as tall and more efficient. I don't want to extend it to make it taller. I just want one that is taller in general. One that pumps more air per strokes. |
Well, unless you want to spend $250 they don't make the pump you want. i wanted the same thing awhile ago. I even tried to find PVC or ABS pipe that would allow me to use my SS pump innards but had no luck.
Another thing to think about is that if you get a tall, full stroke pump (instead of making a regular pump taller) then there is going to be the same resistance at the bottom or beginning of the stroke...so your going to have the same problem you have now with the standard pump.
Can I ask how you got the kite fill attachments for your scuba tanks? Seems like a 13cu ft tabk wouldn't be too troublesome to haul around.
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
4276 Posts
Camas
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 10:20 am |
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| pdxmonkeyboy wrote: | | Hey Nak, what about the compressed air tanks for paintball? You can get a 3000 psi 60 cubic inch tank for pretty cheap. I have no idea how many kites that would fill up or how many recharges you could get from one scuba tank though. |
That would work too. I use the CO2 because the tanks are cheaper & it's easier for me to refill my own tanks. I keep a 20# cylinder in my garage to refill my 20 oz tanks.
Frenchy, Go to GI Joes. They sell a pump thats about 50% taller than the SS model. Just use the gauge & hose adapter from your SS pump. I got one on closeout last year for $10, not sure what the regular price is. Also, take out the top seal in the pump. MUCH easier on the back. (The pump only pumps on the downstroke then.) Some pumps have a little valve to relieve pressure on the upstroke; they're nowhere close to just removing the top seal. Try it, you can always put the seal back in. (You won't though, trust me! )
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forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
4329 Posts
Hood River
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 10:30 am |
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| Aren't the Slingshot pumps shorter than the Cab/LF pumps?
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frenchy
Since 03 Mar 2009
88 Posts
Eugene, Florance, Newport, FLoras, Gorge
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 10:33 am |
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| pdxmonkeyboy wrote: |
Can I ask how you got the kite fill attachments for your scuba tanks? Seems like a 13cu ft tabk wouldn't be too troublesome to haul around. |
I got the attachment at the dive store. It's an attachment designs to either blow down your gear. Or mostly to fill lift bags underwater. I do a lot of tech diving. It's relatively inexpensive. It's tapered at the end. It looks a lot like the nozzles they use to fill helium bottles if not the same thing. I think I paid $8 for it. It's attached to a 2.5 foot hose. and then a 1 st stage reg. I own a lot of regs. They are not cheap though. Maybe you can find a 1st stage for cheap on ebay. It doesn't have to be up to date. It's not like you are going to breath off of it.
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Inept_Fun
Since 14 Apr 2005
1417 Posts
Hood River
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| Tue Apr 07, 09 10:35 am |
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Damn i thought i was lazy...
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