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bleach

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PostFri Sep 28, 18 6:01 pm    Rick Streedain to the rescue Reply with quote

Guys & Gals be safe out there and learn from my mistake. Today while foiling at Stevenson I ran into a submerged fishing line. My foil got tangled in the net. When I went to retrieve it. I got tangled in the net myself. First my shoes, then my harness, and finally my leash. It was a real shit show. The more I panicked the worse it got. Then Rick rides up with a knife. Next pints our on me Rick. I'm buying and carrying a knife on my next session.

Ride on!

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wylieflyote

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PostSat Sep 29, 18 5:15 am     Reply with quote

Question about this incident: Do you feel that a standard kite hook-knife would have freed you? Or does this require the larger SCUBA-like blade?
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PostSat Sep 29, 18 6:21 am     Reply with quote

kite knife would have probably worked but it sure was nice to have a handle to hold on to the blade.

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PostSat Sep 29, 18 7:27 am     Reply with quote

The same thing happened on Thursday to another foiler, but only his foil got tangled. It is always changing down there but right now there is a huge net 200 yards west of the launch that is well marked with big white buoys on the end and small ones showing the net. There is another one 500 yards to the east in the big bay where the boat access is. The big bouys are visible but the small ones showing the net are mostly under water, I just about hit them. The law requires all nets to have buoys stretched across to alert water users, but sometimes the equipment is substandard.
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PostMon Oct 01, 18 9:11 am     Reply with quote

Don't mess around, always carry a quality knife like the eezycut:
https://eezycut.com/

Don't bother with those kite specific ones.

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Kmun

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PostMon Oct 01, 18 2:27 pm    Max Net Thickness blade jaw size Reply with quote

wylieflyote wrote:
Do you feel that a standard kite hook-knife would have freed you? Or does this require the larger SCUBA-like blade?


Correction:
A large handle will help fish it from a kite harness but I was wrong in thinking those jaws were not large enough for rope but then I saw this video of large rope cutting potential of that small slit knife. Yikes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tcGZsfZawY

A large handle will help fish it from a kite harness.

These two choices have a large jaw for larger rope & fit in most kite knife pockets.


https://www.amazon.com/Gerber-Strap-Cutter-Coyote-30-000132/dp/B001PTGOKK/ref=pd_sbs_200_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001PTGOKK&pd_rd_r=df5595db-c5c4-11e8-ac53-75b936a1daeb&pd_rd_w=ve5KQ&pd_rd_wg=5EbjR&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=0bb14103-7f67-4c21-9b0b-31f42dc047e7&pf_rd_r=CA6ZYQ3Q6TVZEEQCAPZ6&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=CA6ZYQ3Q6TVZEEQCAPZ6


https://www.amazon.com/StatGear-Sheath-SuperVizor-Escape-Survival/dp/B01CMVW5SE/ref=pd_sim_469_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01CMVW5SE&pd_rd_r=cbec68e7-c5c4-11e8-893a-038dc14539fa&pd_rd_w=8hSG0&pd_rd_wg=nXtft&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=18bb0b78-4200-49b9-ac91-f141d61a1780&pf_rd_r=JF4241YD28SY5MPPYPBZ&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=JF4241YD28SY5MPPYPBZ

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PostMon Oct 01, 18 2:42 pm    Re: Max Net Thickness blade jaw size Reply with quote

Kmun wrote:
wylieflyote wrote:
Do you feel that a standard kite hook-knife would have freed you? Or does this require the larger SCUBA-like blade?


A large handle will help fish it from a kite harness.

These have a large jaw for larger rope & fit in most kite knife pockets.


https://www.amazon.com/Gerber-Strap-Cutter-Coyote-30-000132/dp/B001PTGOKK/ref=pd_sbs_200_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001PTGOKK&pd_rd_r=df5595db-c5c4-11e8-ac53-75b936a1daeb&pd_rd_w=ve5KQ&pd_rd_wg=5EbjR&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=0bb14103-7f67-4c21-9b0b-31f42dc047e7&pf_rd_r=CA6ZYQ3Q6TVZEEQCAPZ6&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=CA6ZYQ3Q6TVZEEQCAPZ6


https://www.amazon.com/StatGear-Sheath-SuperVizor-Escape-Survival/dp/B01CMVW5SE/ref=pd_sim_469_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01CMVW5SE&pd_rd_r=cbec68e7-c5c4-11e8-893a-038dc14539fa&pd_rd_w=8hSG0&pd_rd_wg=nXtft&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=18bb0b78-4200-49b9-ac91-f141d61a1780&pf_rd_r=JF4241YD28SY5MPPYPBZ&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=JF4241YD28SY5MPPYPBZ



Both of these look great and SO affordable. One question and concern of mine about having a knife out in the water. If one lets go of it, it probably sinks and real fast.


What do most people do with their respective knifes? Are they on a leash/rope as well?


Any ideas of encasing a knife in foam so it won't sink? I realize this adds volume to the equipment.

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PostMon Oct 01, 18 4:14 pm     Reply with quote

Are you sure it wasn't just a plastic six pack rings piece you got entangled in ? Because it's real hard to believe you didn't see the buoys marking both ends. You might wanna avoid Stevenson and ride HR since the nets are out there pretty much the entire season. Or go to an eye doctor. Seriously, destroying someone's livelihood is not cool. I bet the indigenous are not exactly stoked with what you did for them.

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PostMon Oct 01, 18 7:47 pm     Reply with quote

Fisherman don’t get me started on the indigentous,
One of them scratched my Subaru and i am just not ok with it.

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PostTue Oct 02, 18 5:27 am     Reply with quote

I live on a beach in Mexico Dec-May. Every day all day the fisherman are repairing nets, swapping stories, and teaching me Mexican swear words. I seriously doubt a torn net is the "end of their livelihood"
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PostTue Oct 02, 18 8:12 am     Reply with quote

fisherman wrote:
Because it's real hard to believe you didn't see the buoys marking both ends.


Fisherman:

1. A mariner can accidentally cross the submerged net between the moment the first float-marker is noticed throughout the anxious period of scanning for the other end of the net.

2. It is probably wrong to think anyone would intentionally risk net entanglement and death.

3. One does not relish the unfortunate collateral damage of property in pursuit of a life saving rescue.

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PostThu Oct 11, 18 4:02 pm    Re: Max Net Thickness blade jaw size Reply with quote

Sasquatch wrote:
Kmun wrote:
wylieflyote wrote:
Do you feel that a standard kite hook-knife would have freed you? Or does this require the larger SCUBA-like blade?


A large handle will help fish it from a kite harness.

These have a large jaw for larger rope & fit in most kite knife pockets.


https://www.amazon.com/Gerber-Strap-Cutter-Coyote-30-000132/dp/B001PTGOKK/ref=pd_sbs_200_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001PTGOKK&pd_rd_r=df5595db-c5c4-11e8-ac53-75b936a1daeb&pd_rd_w=ve5KQ&pd_rd_wg=5EbjR&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=0bb14103-7f67-4c21-9b0b-31f42dc047e7&pf_rd_r=CA6ZYQ3Q6TVZEEQCAPZ6&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=CA6ZYQ3Q6TVZEEQCAPZ6


https://www.amazon.com/StatGear-Sheath-SuperVizor-Escape-Survival/dp/B01CMVW5SE/ref=pd_sim_469_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01CMVW5SE&pd_rd_r=cbec68e7-c5c4-11e8-893a-038dc14539fa&pd_rd_w=8hSG0&pd_rd_wg=nXtft&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=18bb0b78-4200-49b9-ac91-f141d61a1780&pf_rd_r=JF4241YD28SY5MPPYPBZ&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=JF4241YD28SY5MPPYPBZ



Both of these look great and SO affordable. One question and concern of mine about having a knife out in the water. If one lets go of it, it probably sinks and real fast.


What do most people do with their respective knifes? Are they on a leash/rope as well?


Any ideas of encasing a knife in foam so it won't sink? I realize this adds volume to the equipment.


This is the knife I have used for at least 6 seasons

https://www.benchmade.com/rescue-knives/7-hook.html

I have the case attached to my harness. I have a shoestring thickness line attached to the knife and to my harness. The line is long enough so that I reach any part of my body while holding the knife. I tuck the line folded up into the Velcro carrying case. At the beginning of each season I check to make sure it can cut through a kite line. With the blade being heavy duty, I feel this does not dull it too much. But I figure I can sharpen it if I ever need to. I cover the knife in Vaseline and stick it in the case. At the end of the season I wipe the Vaseline off the knife and inspect for rust. I polish off any rust and reseal with Vaseline. It seems to hold up well kiting in river and ocean.

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PostThu Oct 11, 18 4:05 pm    Re: Max Net Thickness blade jaw size Reply with quote

Sasquatch wrote:
Kmun wrote:
wylieflyote wrote:
Do you feel that a standard kite hook-knife would have freed you? Or does this require the larger SCUBA-like blade?


A large handle will help fish it from a kite harness.

These have a large jaw for larger rope & fit in most kite knife pockets.


https://www.amazon.com/Gerber-Strap-Cutter-Coyote-30-000132/dp/B001PTGOKK/ref=pd_sbs_200_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001PTGOKK&pd_rd_r=df5595db-c5c4-11e8-ac53-75b936a1daeb&pd_rd_w=ve5KQ&pd_rd_wg=5EbjR&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=0bb14103-7f67-4c21-9b0b-31f42dc047e7&pf_rd_r=CA6ZYQ3Q6TVZEEQCAPZ6&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=CA6ZYQ3Q6TVZEEQCAPZ6


https://www.amazon.com/StatGear-Sheath-SuperVizor-Escape-Survival/dp/B01CMVW5SE/ref=pd_sim_469_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01CMVW5SE&pd_rd_r=cbec68e7-c5c4-11e8-893a-038dc14539fa&pd_rd_w=8hSG0&pd_rd_wg=nXtft&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=18bb0b78-4200-49b9-ac91-f141d61a1780&pf_rd_r=JF4241YD28SY5MPPYPBZ&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=JF4241YD28SY5MPPYPBZ



Both of these look great and SO affordable. One question and concern of mine about having a knife out in the water. If one lets go of it, it probably sinks and real fast.


What do most people do with their respective knifes? Are they on a leash/rope as well?


Any ideas of encasing a knife in foam so it won't sink? I realize this adds volume to the equipment.


This is the knife I have used for at least 6 seasons

https://www.benchmade.com/rescue-knives/7-hook.html

I have the case attached to my harness. I have a shoestring thickness line attached to the knife and to my harness. The line is long enough so that I reach any part of my body while holding the knife. I tuck the line folded up into the Velcro carrying case. At the beginning of each season I check to make sure it can cut through a kite line. With the blade being heavy duty, I feel this does not dull it too much. But I figure I can sharpen it if I ever need to. I cover the knife in Vaseline and stick it in the case. At the end of the season I wipe the Vaseline off the knife and inspect for rust. I polish off any rust and reseal with Vaseline. It seems to hold up well kiting in river and ocean.

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