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tinyE

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PostTue Jul 22, 08 9:42 am    sand bar longevity? Reply with quote

there was talk about it before, but is there any interest in planting some grass around the sand bar?

I pulled 8 bags of sea grass out of my yard... already got rid of those, but I could easily do 8 more...the wind came up, so I quit pullin.... the grass transplants really easy... and seems to love sand.... no idea if it would survive long term though...

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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostTue Jul 22, 08 9:51 am     Reply with quote

depends on what kind of grass it is. Do you know what species it is? Allot of coastal grass are adapted to deal with a high percentage of salt and don't do well in freshwater environments. (like salmon returning to spawn)

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tinyE

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PostTue Jul 22, 08 10:40 am     Reply with quote

pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
Do you know what species it is?


yep... it's the POA species...
it gets too abundant
in my yard...
i thin it out,
it comes back thicker,
wash, rinse, repeat

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Gman

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PostTue Jul 22, 08 10:54 am     Reply with quote

Isn't it underwater half the time - is there amphibious grass works underwater and on dry land - oh monkey grass master
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sandbar

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PostTue Jul 22, 08 7:36 pm     Reply with quote

If its in Pacific City, it is most likely european beachgrass, the invasive species from east that wiped out the native beachgrass stands. It grows tall and deep by gaining nutrients from incoming ocean enriched sand. It won't grow in the freshwater haven that is the sandbar. Please don't try to spread it up here, we have big enough invasive problems as it is. Exclamation

Willows stabilize fresh water sandbars, that's what you may want to consider to build up the west bank of the Hood River.

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EdG

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PostTue Jul 22, 08 8:10 pm     Reply with quote

sandbar wrote:

Willows stabilize fresh water sandbars, that's what you may want to consider to build up the west bank of the Hood River.


Trees on the sand bar? Willows grow real big and could create a huge wind shadow, right?

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sandbar

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PostTue Jul 22, 08 8:27 pm     Reply with quote

The west bank of the Hood River is down wind of kite action. Plenty of willows are just shrubs, and won't be trees. Nevertheless, I don't think that stabilization of the sandbar is really likely. It will probably slowly erode downstream, and in 5 or 10 years, without another glacial outburst, it will recede back to the pylon (and an outer ring bar at lower river levels) like it was thru June of this year.

But, there may be an opportunity for the enviros and the kiters to collaborate on a habitat restoration project that would preserve the sandbar and provide roosting sites for special birds and shelter for smolts at high water. (If you weren't aware, some fish and bird people weren't really excited about clearing the sandbar of large woody debris. Shocked ) It is something to think about because the endangered species have the law on their side (almost as much as the RR) and kiters are seen as just having fun. Sad

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KidCorporate

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PostTue Jul 22, 08 8:51 pm     Reply with quote

sandbar wrote:
If you weren't aware, some fish and bird people weren't really excited about clearing the sandbar of large woody debris. Shocked


*SIGH* You're always gonna piss off someone... like our ginormous kites and constant stomping through the shallows hadn't scared off any wildlife already...

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forrest

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PostWed Jul 23, 08 6:50 am     Reply with quote

If you don't take a dump in the habitat, birds and fish should be able to co-exists naturally. Humans are animals too, and before the industrial revolution, we hadn't really had much affect on the environment in places where it was respected.

Brett, I think you should get in contact with ShredJim and start a CGKA project to study which types of vegetation and location would be of best benefit. This is something that would greatly benefit the Sandbar, if done properly.

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tinyE

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PostWed Jul 23, 08 7:00 am     Reply with quote

sandbar wrote:
If its in Pacific City, it is most likely european beachgrass,


"Then, during the 50's, the CCC crews were enlisted to plant Holland Grass on the dunes thus stabilizing them for building homes."


Maybe we just need to mix it with some Scotch Broom Confused

PS... I found some evidence in California that Holland grass does live in freshwater environments. I couldn't find anything about it living while submerged though.

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