What is the top end of you 9 REV? (and some T3 chatter)

pdxmonkeyboy · Tue May 13, 08 8:43 pm

I dunnno man, I think you would get more usage out of an 11.
Seriously, when are you going to fly your 13? When its blowing 12 at the spit? Or are you going to have a $1300 sauvie island kite?

shredjim · Since 07 Jun 2006 188 Posts Stoked

Comparing the 14 meter T2 to Revs is not a fair comparison. The 14 T2 is slow, period. Great low wind kite but it was not made to turn like a Rev. IMO - Todd you should consider a 7 m T3 for your high wind kite. The Turbos have way more power than the size of kite, ie a 7m T3 has about the same power as a Rev 9. I agree with tstansbury that Rev's don't turn or ride like T3'so it would be better to stay with one kite style for consistency. I just rode waves in SPI many times on a T3 7 meter - the kite rips. Turns plenty fast and has great power. Lots of riders on this forum are happy with Revs and that is great, but many of those people have not rode the smaller T3s because they have not been out very long. They need to - they are great kites! Plus the new Moto style bar rocks!

Hope to see you all at the Lyle clean up on Saturday!!!!

toddjb · Since 16 Oct 2007 271 Posts MD Obsessed

tstansbury · Since 06 Jun 2006 649 Posts Rowena and P.C Addicted

I have rode 7m t3 into the high 30s it was perfect. I have a t3 7 and a rev 11. I like the range and sheetability of the t3 when the wind is strong and the turning speed of the rev in average wind speeds.

j · Since 08 Nov 2006 94 Posts Seattle

If your going 3 kite quiver and like Rev's, why don't you go either:
14T3, 11Rev, 7T3?
or 14T3, 11Rev, 7Rev?

Seems like you've glossed over that possibility all together.

magicmaker · Since 29 Oct 2006 895 Posts da Hood Opinionated

pdxmonkeyboy · Wed May 14, 08 8:12 am

FYI, the REV has the same issues of instability in high winds and being fully sheeted out. I pump mine up pretty hard, not super super hard, around 7 psi or so but it is definitely very crisp. Couple weeks ago at the coast in gusts around 30 when fully sheeted out on the face of some waves the leading edge folded under twice. It didn't fully invert on me but it was enough to cause me a great deal of concern with a 7 foot wave preparing to break on my head.

13m REV in 30 knots.. Make sure I have my camcorder around when your going to try that...

magicmaker · Since 29 Oct 2006 895 Posts da Hood Opinionated

Nak · Wed May 14, 08 8:18 am

I haven't had the instability problem with my 11 Rev. I Pump mine to 8 - 9 psi though. I had it at RR this fall fully sheeted out in some pretty high wind. Way overpowered.

I'm not belittling anyone else's experience, just saying I haven't had the problem with my 11 Rev.

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6549 Posts Couve / Hood Honored Founder

Definitely go to at least 8 psi if you are going to ride the REV overpowered. I'd rather risk the damage caused by overpumping than have the LE folding in.

That's compromise you take with the hybrids... C kites and Bow kites seem to have better stability at the top end.

toddjb · Since 16 Oct 2007 271 Posts MD Obsessed

Re. stability - I'm only just starting to hear feedback from other's on this issue when I ask. It isn't widespread and only occurs when you push the high end of smaller kites. With the average size kite probably being 11s and 12s and a lot of folks living in lightwind areas, I think most people won't report ever seeing it. I think it is only on the small kites and it is due to the narrower LEs. You have to pump a narrow tube a lot firmer to get the same rigidity as a larger diameter tube. I have definitely had my 11 and 14 T2s out in wind I had no business in and the kites were rock solid.

And there's always the chance I don't know what the hell I'm talking about...which is why I'm asking. There's people here with a lot more knowledge than me on kite design. Thanks.

toddjb · Since 16 Oct 2007 271 Posts MD Obsessed

Thanks for all the help here. I took all the advice to heart and decided to go with an all T3 quiver this year (7/11/14). The "plan" is to hold on to that 7 for a while and give the next generation of REVs a hard look when they come out...maybe a 15/11 or something. There's still a lot I like about the T3s, even though I like the way the REVs jump.

Thanks again,
-todd