Turbo 2 with direct 1:1 bar?

Diggy · Since 25 Nov 2006 342 Posts Gorge to Coast Obsessed

Has anyone flown the T2 with a direct 1:1 bar? What are your thoughts on performance and safety? Just curious since the T3 is being marketed as 1:1 direct or 2:1 with pulleys.

~dig

Kataku2k3 · Since 14 Aug 2005 3754 Posts PDX-LA Videographer

Shy and Tucker have with the T2s... Said it works, but not great. Obviously you'll have lighter bar pressure, but it doesn't have the turning response. I've only flown the early T3 protos in 1:1, but I'm not used to bow kites period. Also, the production T3 bridles have been completely reworked, so I'm sure it'll be better!

kiteboard117 · Since 02 Mar 2005 450 Posts PDX McLovin

yep i did it for a little while last year. i dont think i would recomend it though. it will make the kite so slow you cant turn it in a full loop. its alright for just straight wakestyle or boosting when the wind is perfect but it no good for everything else.

I havent gotten a chance to fly the production T3s yet but i know they have a totaly new bridle that makes the kite way faster when you have it rigged for 1to1

pdxmonkeyboy · Thu Mar 27, 08 7:54 am

love the new avatar Mclovin!!!

blancoh2o · Since 15 Mar 2005 1154 Posts Oregon Phishy

Diggy,

I will chime in a bit and explain why.......Yes, you can fly your T2 with a T3 bar. You will gain the safety of the below the bar safety system found on the 2008 bar. You will also enjoy the new moto style grip.

You will NOT be able to fly your T2 with the 1:1 conversion. The reason you can not do so is because when you convert the bar for 1:1 you also have to move the attachment points of the kite. The bridle is designed to accomodate this conversion on the T3. The T2 is only designed for a 2:1 bar.

The T2 is a great kite, the T3 is very similar but has the ability to fly 1;1 for lighter bar pressure and below the bar safety.

So far I have only flown the T3 on the snow, but in the 2:1 mode it felt very similar to the T2. I will post more once I get on the water with them.

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6549 Posts Couve / Hood Honored Founder

I tried Tucker's 1:1 setup on a T2 once and it was scary, kite would not turn.

T2 is a bow kite, use the pulleys. If you don't like them maybe look at a hybrid like the Rev. I know they are saying the T3 can fly 1:1, but I get the feeling that it will be most at home on a 2:1 setup.

blancoh2o · Since 15 Mar 2005 1154 Posts Oregon Phishy

mschulz · Since 29 May 2007 530 Posts Reno, NV Addicted

So kites that you can ride either 1:1 or 2:1, the 2:1 set up will make them all turn quicker? I am trying to decide if I want to ride my 07 boxers in the 2:1. Only used the 1:1 so far.

blancoh2o · Since 15 Mar 2005 1154 Posts Oregon Phishy

barfly · Since 31 Mar 2005 1216 Posts Portland BRACKISH

Sorry to bump this but I have a new T3 11m and trying to figure out why I would go to a 1:1. The instructions say that you still use the pulley at the bridle, it is just moved forward to the next connection setting.

Also, from reading this post it sounds like there is something that gets changed at the bar too. I can't find any discussion about the bar, or differences of the flying characteristics in the user manual or website.

Any help would be appreciated.

blancoh2o · Since 15 Mar 2005 1154 Posts Oregon Phishy

Barfly,

In 1:1 the kite will have a lot less bar pressure and direct feel. Give it a try and see if you like it. I havn't ridden mine in the 1:1 mode on the water yet, just the snow.
What size T3s did you get? The5 uses a 17 inch bar ,the 7,9 &11 use the 20 inch bar and the 14 uses a 23 inch bar.
I set up one of my 20 inch bars in the 1:1 mode and left the other in 2:1 mode, that way all I have to do is change the connections at the kite.
If you need setup instructions, feel free to ask and I will help you out.
Steve

barfly · Since 31 Mar 2005 1216 Posts Portland BRACKISH

Thanks Steve. I bought an 11m. I also have a 5m T2. In between, I'm staying with 7 and 11 Fuels so I don't have a bar swapping option. Do you know of a document that shows how to change the bar out? Otherwise, PM me and maybe we can go over it on the phone. -Tony

tstansbury · Since 06 Jun 2006 649 Posts Rowena and P.C Addicted

I set my t3 7 in 1-1 have not got to much time on it but it seems good. 7 always turn and depower pretty fast. The instructions were ok on how to do the conversion but I called the ss rider hot line to double check a few things, they were great.

blancoh2o · Since 15 Mar 2005 1154 Posts Oregon Phishy

Tony,

Click here: http://buyslingshotsports.com/kite/2008_kite_kites_t3.htm
Then click on QSG. Go to page 2 and then see the bar conversion document and give it a try. Basicly, you are eliminating the pully at the bar and adding the leaderline pigtail that is located in the "kite pocket". If that doesn't make it clear, let me know and I will give you a ring.

barfly · Since 31 Mar 2005 1216 Posts Portland BRACKISH

Ah, thanks... QSG, I shoulda known! Very Happy

Spike · Since 13 May 2007 1414 Posts Alameda Spelling Expert

I wish I could ride my T2s with 1:1. I cant control the bar with one hand since the bar pressure is so high. If i grip the bar right next to the centerlines, I still cant prevent the kite from turn that direction... I think this is part of the reason I can't seem to ever retrieve boards for anybody. Once I'm going I'm alright as the upper steering line needs more tension anyways, but I don't see a one-handed water-start with my T2's anytime in my future