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Parent kiter advice: Rebel (bow), or Vegas (C)

 
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eric

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PostSun Dec 30, 07 2:05 pm    Parent kiter advice: Rebel (bow), or Vegas (C) Reply with quote

11 year old boy strating to ride both directions prety much up-wind. At 110 lbs, 6 Rebel, or 5 Vegas as 15-25 kite?

No brand vs brand please. I suppose the question is a little smaller C, or a little bigger bow?

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NateDogg

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PostSun Dec 30, 07 3:12 pm     Reply with quote

I've coached a lot of kids in that weight range, and I'd say 6 Rebel for sure. If you went for a Vegas, especially as he gets more experienced and grows, the 5 Vegas will just keep needing more and more wind and the usable range will just get smaller. With the Rebel you're gonna have a ton of range for the high wind days and extra bridle kite grunt for the low wind stuff, plus a little bit more time before he needs a bigger kite, if he ever does. Throw in easy relaunch and forgiveness on the Rebel when learning new tricks and you have yourself a pretty good grom level kite.
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kitekid

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PostSun Dec 30, 07 3:53 pm     Reply with quote

i would agree with the rebel. i wish they had bow kites when i was 110lbs.

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Inept_Fun

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PostMon Dec 31, 07 8:55 am     Reply with quote

Cohn, I think you should put him on the 2.5m Naish Turtle kite! haha. I think either kite would be good, constant pull of the c will help with good form and style while riding i think.
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PostMon Dec 31, 07 10:08 am     Reply with quote

The bow will be safer. The power of a c kite can be intimidating. Add that with gorge wind conditions, and you will likely have an unhappy 11 yo.

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PostTue Jan 01, 08 11:35 am     Reply with quote

If you think that the power of a 6 rebel wont be a lot than your mistaking, with bows you gotta add the 2 meters so its gonna be more like an 8. If you go with a bow you prolly want to look for a 5 or something, but i think that the C that small for someone that small will work fine.
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Chooch

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PostTue Jan 01, 08 12:36 pm     Reply with quote

I can tell you that the 6m Rebel has an amazing low end. I am 175lbs and I can be riding upwind in 18 kts on my 6m. On the same note its has a high end of 40+ kts for my weight. I know that the vegas is a great kte as well but your son will need 2 Vegas kites to cover the wind range one 6m Rebel will cover.

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PostTue Jan 01, 08 11:51 pm     Reply with quote

Chooch wrote:
I can tell you that the 6m Rebel has an amazing low end. I am 175lbs and I can be riding upwind in 18 kts on my 6m.

yeah but is riding a 6m in 18 kts really much fun? that thing will never pull you off the water.

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shredjim

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PostWed Jan 02, 08 9:43 am     Reply with quote

Hey Eric, I have 2006 Vegas 5 and 7 meter kites that I use for instructing that I got for part of the two pump testing in 06. They fly better than most kites that size - C or hybrid. The 08 Vegas kites are more like 06 than 07, ie they have large wing tip battons, which help in many regards to beginning kiteboarders. The Rebel's turn faster and have some re-launch bad habbits that the Vegas' do not. I've taught 3 different 12 yr olds to ride on these kites and they absolutely love them - almost as much range and de-power as a Rebel, but a more steady pull. I liked seeing your smile last summer when you just got your Rebel's. I have a question for you though - what about a 4 line kite for your son - or anyone else learning for that matter? PM me if you want to try the Vegas kites or talk more off the forum.

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PostWed Jan 02, 08 6:34 pm     Reply with quote

Spike wrote:
Chooch wrote:
I can tell you that the 6m Rebel has an amazing low end. I am 175lbs and I can be riding upwind in 18 kts on my 6m.

yeah but is riding a 6m in 18 kts really much fun? that thing will never pull you off the water.



Simply giving him an idea on the low end, the 6m starts getting fun around 25 kts.

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