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hiker1

Since 01 Jul 2007
125 Posts
Portland
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Thu Aug 16, 07 6:51 pm For those that Kite and Windsurf - a question? |
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How does kiteboarding feel different than windsurfing
I'm not as much referring to the obvious mechanical differences as I am how it feels to be out in the water.
I'm a long time boardhead who is seeing more and more folks that have windsurfed for years converting their wind-time to kiteboarding --- with fantastic reviews! I still love ripping up the swell at The Hatch or The Wall on a 3.7 day (while kiters are flying high on 7m's at Lyle) --- but as a beginner kiteboarder this summer, I'm curious how other boardheads have experienced the difference on the water between flying a kite and a sail...
One thing for sure as I've been dragging my ass around on my small 4 line trainer - y'all kiteboarders have been super friendly and helpful!
Kite or sail - it's ALL good! |
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stevegriffith22
Since 14 May 2006
434 Posts
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Thu Aug 16, 07 7:30 pm |
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If you look at it like motorcycles, I always figured it was like:
Windsurfing was like riding a hyabusa, you know, they hall ass and can smooth things out, and kiteing is like riding a super motard, up down, on and off the throttle, left right.....yeeee haa.
This being from my oh......two lessons on a sail board at scout camp....so really I don't even know if my opion counts  |
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Spike

Since 13 May 2007
1414 Posts
Alameda
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Thu Aug 16, 07 8:47 pm |
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kiteboarding is better than windsurfing  |
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Bill D
Since 14 Jul 2007
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Thu Aug 16, 07 9:43 pm |
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I still like windsurfing when it blows hard or wave sailing at the beach, but I was spending too much time on the beach watching string kiters having a good time when it blows 12 to 18. I decided to jump in and find it very addicting, similiar to when you first started to learn shortboarding.
Make sure you take some professional instruction and learn kite safety. The board skills should come pretty quickly for the basic stuff. |
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Kraemer

Since 24 Apr 2006
1736 Posts
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Thu Aug 16, 07 9:58 pm |
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I POLEsmoked from 82-92 until one bad day at hookipa. I left it alone until 2003 for over 10 years until I got back on the horse with Kiteboarding.
For me kiting is about less equipment and way more jumping and tricks without the penalties of wakeboarding and flying without the risk of Parasailing or hangliding.
It it technical and scary for me to get BIG air on a sailboard. Kiting is no problemo to jump 5-10 feet. 20 feet ? Not that big a deal.
I think we are more comfortable in the air than in the water. Spins and tricks... keep trying. Something will give! Ouch. |
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bulae99
Since 12 Jul 2006
1692 Posts
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Fri Aug 17, 07 6:02 am It feels lighter with less impact on knees |
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I still windsurf in really high winds 37mph plus, but kite on 7meter in 30's and down.
I'm 43 and windsurfed really hard for years in high winds. The interesting thing is that I like kiting in the light 20mph winds on my 11 meter TD II!!!
20 is the magic number for me and it feels really safe to kite in this condition on a regular basis.
Kiting is light because the kite is pulling you up and you can just hang out and surf the swell. It's like jibing on a wave you just surf it longer when you are on a kite.
Kiting feels lighter and you land jumps softer and the gear is lighter too.
I have not windsurfed since June of this year!
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stringy

Since 23 Jun 2006
1738 Posts
vancouver
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Fri Aug 17, 07 7:27 am |
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Kiting makes you smile. While I have not windsurfed, I have recently gone through the swells by the hatchery during the blowout and I did not witness a single windsurfer smiling. Maybe it was because they were pissed I was in the swell? Not sure but just an observation.
stringy _________________ www.jimstringfellow.com |
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chanson

Since 31 Jan 2006
1874 Posts
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Fri Aug 17, 07 8:43 am |
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| Quote: | | Kiting makes you smile. While I have not windsurfed, I have recently gone through the swells by the hatchery during the blowout and I did not witness a single windsurfer smiling. Maybe it was because they were pissed I was in the swell? Not sure but just an observation. |
Good point....I cruzed through the hatch smiling that I was still intact close to the end....and they didn't seem like they were having that much fun....I saw some of them angrily gripping thier "boom" with akward grip and water splashing in their faces.  _________________ Shallow Dive Design, 2nd Wind Sports, Airush, Trident Sports |
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pdxmonkeyboy

Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
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Fri Aug 17, 07 9:09 am |
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In terms of the FEELING, I can't speak too much about windsurfing because when I was trying to learn it, it felt like a big pain in the arse. So much gear and setup time and then you get out on the water and it is HARD. After about 6 sessions I said, it will take my years and years and years to get to a place that I would have fun doing it (ripping). b
You go to the hatch or the wall and some of those guys are absolutely killing it and it looks like radical fun. Then you realize that those guys have spent more than a decade on the water, living out of there vans to get that good.
So for me, kiting had a much "free-er" feeling right away. The board is small and light so you can whip it around, turning is easy, and you should be ablt to catch small airs within about a dozen sessions. It is also somewhat easy to progress in KB if you don't mind getting beat up a bit. I was trying some unhooked moves for the first time yesterday and admittedly ate shit several times. I felt like I was 90yo this morning.
So take some lessons and give it a try. I think the main thing it to be friendly, cool and watch out for everyone. As the launch spots get more and more and more crowded, people are going to have to put some effort into keeping the good vibes going. |
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pkh

Since 27 Feb 2005
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Couve / Hood
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Fri Aug 17, 07 9:11 am |
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| chanson wrote: | | Quote: | | Kiting makes you smile. While I have not windsurfed, I have recently gone through the swells by the hatchery during the blowout and I did not witness a single windsurfer smiling. Maybe it was because they were pissed I was in the swell? Not sure but just an observation. |
Good point....I cruzed through the hatch smiling that I was still intact close to the end....and they didn't seem like they were having that much fun....I saw some of them angrily gripping thier "boom" with akward grip and water splashing in their faces.  |
Maybe they are just bitter they are not this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF-MZR4ccX0
He seems to be smiling plenty.
Big air =  |
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shastadogs2
Since 28 Mar 2005
336 Posts
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Fri Aug 17, 07 9:16 am |
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the really cool thing about kiting, in addition to all the above, is that you can pack it down. its very minimalist, and with the new bow-type kites, a one or two-kite quiver is possible. it all fits in the trunk of a midsize car.
i pack my trunk before work and wear my wetsuit under my clinic clothes. when the wind comes up, i'm good to go.
and the neoprene makes me feel sexy all over.  |
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blowhard
Since 26 Dec 2005
2027 Posts
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Fri Aug 17, 07 9:23 am |
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hiker
I can tell you that kiting in the surf is just as much fun
if you are into carving GYBING turns with power
just like on the big stuff(windsurfer)
give it a couple yrs. and you become sooo lazy that all that gear will be impossible to pack around
but it looks good in the garage |
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chanson

Since 31 Jan 2006
1874 Posts
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Fri Aug 17, 07 9:48 am |
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| Quote: | | Maybe they are just bitter they are not this guy: |
Def. not looking like that at the Hatch that day.
Damn, the Hucker is right!!!!!!!!!!  _________________ Shallow Dive Design, 2nd Wind Sports, Airush, Trident Sports |
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stringy

Since 23 Jun 2006
1738 Posts
vancouver
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Fri Aug 17, 07 10:17 am |
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| chanson wrote: | | Quote: | | Maybe they are just bitter they are not this guy: |
Def. not looking like that at the Hatch that day.
Damn, the Hucker is right!!!!!!!!!!  |
I watched that video. If Dale Cook is the hucker I have one word for him...Respect.
Someone needs to put a kite in his hands, imagine what he could do and probably prgress so rapidly based on his windsurfing skills.
One point on the video. Hucker was the only one that really did any jumping. Nobody on the other sailboards were doing anything. Also I think they weren't smiling  _________________ www.jimstringfellow.com |
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genek

Since 21 Jul 2006
2165 Posts
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Fri Aug 17, 07 2:49 pm |
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It's all about attitude. Some windsurfers might be doing it out of habit and not even having that much fun anymore (or maybe they're angry about having to mow the lawn). I got windsurfing friends that are in their twenties/early thirties and they huck front and back rolls and tear the waves up. They usually have a big grin on their face and love to share the wave with their kiting buddies. I found a similar vibe at Punta San Carlos as well. I guess the hardcore riders just have more fun...and it's way easier to advance in kiting, hence more smiles.
Mad props to the HUCKER for his air, but what's up with the video just showing one move over and over? How about mixing it up a little? |
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pura vida one
Since 22 May 2007
80 Posts
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Fri Aug 17, 07 7:18 pm lifestyle |
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| for me boardsports are a lifestyle. snowboarding and skating have defined a large part of my life. i don't windsurf and definitely wouldn't exclude it from the boardsports category by any means, but it seem to be a different animal, a little more sailing(of course). i put kiting in w/ skate/snow/surf. the variety of styles, the manueverability, and the grabs are totally family w/ my lifetime on halfpipes, parks, cliffs and bowls, etc. i've had no inclination to windsurf but kiting was a natural crossover. |
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