The next Sandbar Cleanup Work Party is.....

shredjim · Since 07 Jun 2006 188 Posts Stoked

going to be in June or early July. We need to have a plan to deal with the left over log piles that we could not get to burn. I'm thinking one strategy would be to move the wet logs closer to the parking lot and let them dry for a while. The logs that are up above the waterline will be dry and we can burn them like usual - we need some fire for the party afterwards right? It won't be anywhere near as much work as last time, so it might leave more time for kiteboarding. It seemed to me that those who got to ride on Saturday enjoyed parking their 4x4 rigs out on the sandbar close to where they rigged their kite. I am fairly sure the Port will support another cleanup. I got a nice email from Linda from the Port congratulating us for such a productive effort! Linda and Michael from the Port have been totally supportive of CGKA recently and gave me guidance to help navigate through all of the permits and approvals we needed. Does anyone know an owner of a barge we could borrow to move the wet wood some place else in the river? OK, so lets have some Saturdays nominated and some additional proposals for dealing with the log piles Wink

magicmaker · Since 29 Oct 2006 895 Posts da Hood Opinionated

i have an idea for the existing log piles, we get the OK to use excavators and buckets to remove the log piles? i mean, we're not moving any sand, so we're not doing in sand work, we're just finishing the job of clearing the logs and debris that we started. Then we could load of the log piles into trucks and cart them off. Debbie offered to provide a dump truck to haul the logs off, we would just have to get the logs off the sandbar first because she didn't want to drive it down in the sand. of course we may not need the dump truck if people can just haul all the logs to the dump or where ever in the same rigs we move them off the sand with. maybe we could use the buckets to pick up rocks? i mean, they're not sand either Smile

what do you think?

as far as dates, i think the sooner the better, and if we have another party i'm not the one responsible for closing the gate this time. We have to get new officers elected and some fresh meat can take that responsibility Wink

boredbrain · Since 16 Feb 2006 352 Posts Hood River Obsessed

I would think that the moving sand regulation is actually about dredging, since it is to protect Salmon.

But that is common sense, and has nothing to do with regulations Shocked

pdxmonkeyboy · Wed May 23, 07 11:07 am

Shred, if you need any help with permits let me know.

forrest · Wed May 23, 07 11:38 am

- Two more events: First, one to move the logs to the higher sand. Let a couple weeks pass for the wood to dry, then have a second bonfire event?

- Get approval and just marking the logs with buoys? I'm sure each school wouldn't mind paying the cost of a single 12 dollar foam buoy? Just looked at the price of them at GI Joes the other day.

- Drag the wet wood up into the wind shadow those bushes make and just wait for them to dry. Donate the dry wood to some of the firewood vendors so long as they come cut it up and take it away.

magicmaker · Since 29 Oct 2006 895 Posts da Hood Opinionated

draggin all that wood across the sandbar is going to be extremely difficult, that is why we made 6 piles in the first place, because it didn't seem logical to try and drag all that stuff on the perimeter back to the middle or southern portion of the sandbar. Maybe now with a lot of it burned it would be more manageable. but we still got a lot of those HUGE stumps that are by far the most difficult thing to drag.

i was thinkign more about dates, and as far as they are concerned, we should co-ordinate w/ the army corps of engineers to have it during a weekend when they are going to have the water low, like maybe around the 4th of july they usually have the water low?

Mark · Wed May 23, 07 12:26 pm

Now that the water has come back up, all the outer piles need are a good push and they will float off.

wylieflyote · Wed May 23, 07 12:47 pm

Forrest touched on a plan I was obsessing on while I was cutting logs during the clean-up. Why not place these logs in a spot where folks could cut it up for firewood? I must have cut 4+ cords of really nice dry fir on Saturday.
In the Wa. St. D.O.T. where I work, whenever there's a windstorm that knocks down trees, crowds show up to harvest the wood as soon as the wind dies.

pdxmonkeyboy · Wed May 23, 07 12:48 pm

I believe the corps can help you with the water levels with a little advance notice.

Doesn't anyone have a big winch to just winch those suckers closer? Perhaps a winch, rope and plywood sled?

jsut a thought.

magicmaker · Since 29 Oct 2006 895 Posts da Hood Opinionated

i have a winch, but it is extremely slow to run the cable out, attach the choker, and winch it in. Also, the winch cable is only about ~125 feet, so moving each log 125 feet at a time will take all day Rolling Eyes

you could probably move 5 or 6 logs at a time but still, very slow going.

shredjim · Since 07 Jun 2006 188 Posts Stoked

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6549 Posts Couve / Hood Honored Founder

If you did have something where you could move the wood very easily (like a CAT) then I'd say move it to where we had the big bonfire that went late last time. Its a dry area and out of the way of where you'd want to launch (not too close to the parking lot and not too close to the edge of the water.) Let the wood dry out for a few days then throw another bonfire party Very Happy

But, that's a lot of wood to move, and if you couldn't do it easily enough then I'd say pushing it into the water is probably more feasible.

tinyE · Since 21 Jan 2006 2004 Posts not really an XTreme Poster

we could always do something a little more conventional
http://youtube.com/watch?v=47z0cbTrrRE

pdxmonkeyboy · Wed May 23, 07 1:50 pm

I knew that was the exploding whale footage even before I clicked it. LOL That thing is classic!!!

pdxmonkeyboy · Wed May 23, 07 1:50 pm

I knew that was the exploding whale footage even before I clicked it. LOL That thing is classic!!!

eskeeme · Since 23 May 2007 44 Posts White Salmon

If you could build some sort of sled (like a strong wood pallet with 4x4 wood) or something, with a coulple of runners on the bottom to skid across the sand, moving the logs by boat or by truck would be alot smoother. It would have to be bigger than the logs in order to keep it from diggin into the sand and strong enough to be pulled by a wench.

You could skid the logs back up the beach to burn or buck up. Or when pulling by boat to just drop in the water, your not connected to the log! Just run out into the water, let it sink, and(in theory) just pull the sled out from underneath! You would still need some form of a safety detatch line just in case it gets caught up. And some sort of a floatation device for the sled to help it back up from the water.

I was just thinkin about it and figured I would share the idea. See ya out there!

boredbrain · Since 16 Feb 2006 352 Posts Hood River Obsessed

The unfortunate truth is that they will need to be cut into smaller managable pieces.

Dragging into the river is a bad idea, imo Smile