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shredjim
Since 07 Jun 2006
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 Thu May 24, 07 12:09 am Sandbar woodpile removal testing assistance required |
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In our pursuit of sandbar wood pile elimination we need to test out how much effort it takes to drag the waterlogged pieces into the river from a boat.
Any volunteers for providing a boat?, then we will need a few additional guys on the sandbar and 2 on the boat to try different methods to drag the wet wood from the sandbar into the river? We can pick pieces we know will sink, and the river drops quickly from the outer piles so we don't have to tow them too far. I'm working on the best method to retrieve the line and a shackle from the wood pieces that sink 30 ft. to the bottom of the river. The power of this forum is great to help us formulate additional planning and to facilitate people participation! |
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forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
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Hood River
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| Thu May 24, 07 6:35 am |
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| I don't own a boat, but I'm down to help on the shore. |
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Gman
Since 11 Feb 2006
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| Thu May 24, 07 6:54 am |
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| Maybe you don't want to that prior to a big holiday weekend for boaters - assuming a few pieces might float off. |
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J.P.
Since 10 Mar 2005
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| Thu May 24, 07 7:02 am Re: Sandbar woodpile removal testing assistance required |
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| shredjim wrote: | In our pursuit of sandbar wood pile elimination we need to test out how much effort it takes to drag the waterlogged pieces into the river from a boat.
Any volunteers for providing a boat?, then we will need a few additional guys on the sandbar and 2 on the boat to try different methods to drag the wet wood from the sandbar into the river? We can pick pieces we know will sink, and the river drops quickly from the outer piles so we don't have to tow them too far. I'm working on the best method to retrieve the line and a shackle from the wood pieces that sink 30 ft. to the bottom of the river. The power of this forum is great to help us formulate additional planning and to facilitate people participation! |
Jim,
Did anyone toss the idea out of pulling the salvageable wood off the beach and selling as say, fire wood to raise money for the CGKA/Spit improvement fund/Sliding park.. etc.?
True, what I’m suggesting is more work however it appears that you have the manpower you need after Saturdays turn out.
Nice job and kudos to all who participated…. |
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Garret
Since 07 Sep 2006
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| Thu May 24, 07 7:28 am |
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| I don't own a boat either, but I am up to help out. I am concerned that that if one of those heavy logs sinks really quickly it could swamp the boat as it goes down- |
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tstansbury
Since 06 Jun 2006
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| Thu May 24, 07 7:39 am |
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| That wood was so wet it would not make firewood for years. |
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shredjim
Since 07 Jun 2006
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| Thu May 24, 07 8:06 am |
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| Garret wrote: | | I don't own a boat either, but I am up to help out. I am concerned that that if one of those heavy logs sinks really quickly it could swamp the boat as it goes down- |
I agree safety is paramount, but I think we will be ok if we have 40 ft of line that we tow the log pieces with, then it will hit bottom since the river is only 30 ft deep in the middle of the channel. You seem resourceful Garret - want to help design a quick release system so we can recover the line we use to drag the log pieces? |
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J.P.
Since 10 Mar 2005
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| Thu May 24, 07 8:36 am |
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| tstansbury wrote: | | That wood was so wet it would not make firewood for years. |
True, True, however the 50+ cords (I'm guessing) had no problems burning Saturday & Sunday...
One thing to keep in mind, mother nature will continue to deposit these assets on the sand bar. The only question is will alternative means be investigated at convert these assets into $$$ or will they be once again burned and set upon those who live down stream... |
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pkh
Since 27 Feb 2005
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Couve / Hood
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| Thu May 24, 07 8:58 am |
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Numerous attempts were made to get the 3 piles closest to the Columbia to burn, lots of diesel was used... they did burn a bit but unfortunately they were not nearly as dry as the wood on inside of the spit (closer to the parking lot.) The wood the wet piles was mostly pulled out of the water or the wet sand/mud.
It would be nice if the spit was totally void of the logs, but as its stands the logs that are there are pretty visible and isolated to 3 big piles. They should be easy enough for everyone to dodge. Maybe just let sleeping dogs lie and wait till we have an extended low water dryspell and try to burn them again? |
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Garret
Since 07 Sep 2006
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| Thu May 24, 07 9:21 am |
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| Let me think about it-- an option may be to have a scuba diver in the water to go release the lines. I don't know how bad the visability is in the columbia and the current might be an issue, but they could follow down the lines to the logs and unhook-- |
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Gman
Since 11 Feb 2006
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Portland
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| Thu May 24, 07 9:58 am |
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| pkh wrote: | Numerous attempts were made to get the 3 piles closest to the Columbia to burn, lots of diesel was used... they did burn a bit but unfortunately they were not nearly as dry as the wood on inside of the spit (closer to the parking lot.) The wood the wet piles was mostly pulled out of the water or the wet sand/mud.
It would be nice if the spit was totally void of the logs, but as its stands the logs that are there are pretty visible and isolated to 3 big piles. They should be easy enough for everyone to dodge. Maybe just let sleeping dogs lie and wait till we have an extended low water dryspell and try to burn them again? |
This makes alot of sense - the piles are highly visible - like the channel marker in the defunct channel - a month in the wind and sun - they will burn nice. |
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tstansbury
Since 06 Jun 2006
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| Thu May 24, 07 10:18 am |
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| I say mark them and burn them in the fall |
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eskeeme
Since 23 May 2007
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| Thu May 24, 07 10:43 am |
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I'm willing to help out in any way I can! I don't own a boat, but I'll help on shore.
If we had low water and a few hot days, we could get those piles to burn. It may take a day or so for it to completely burn, allowing the inside of the logs to dry wile burning.
I'm sure you can rig up a detach line for the boat and a diver could unhook the logs. It sounds a little risky, but so is alot of things we do! |
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Tony
Since 28 Aug 2006
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| Thu May 24, 07 11:07 am |
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hhuummm, Wet Heavy Logs that sink + boat to tow + diver in low visibility to release rope/cable + possible strong current..  .. I know I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed by if you want my opinion - the whole boat tow and diver probably wont work....Maybe the small stuff will work...But the big stuff doesn't seem too safe....PKH has the best idea...since there is only a couple of very visible piles, just dodge around them.
Regardless, the Sandbar looks awesome and I also think everyones efforts thus far is greatly appreciated... |
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
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| Thu May 24, 07 2:29 pm |
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I say take a chainsaw and shape them into little bear figures or statues of fish.
Then, you could sell them to a tourist in the summer and let them deal with getting them home. |
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eskeeme
Since 23 May 2007
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White Salmon
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| Fri May 25, 07 10:21 am |
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| Ha ha, you could make some money with all the tourists that come here! |
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