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tinyE
Since 21 Jan 2006
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so i was packing up my warroo the other day and closing the bag tight, when i looked down at the ball they use to close up the backpack. Would something like that work? or would it not hold the bar pressure?
(basically, it's a ball with a hole in it, and a spring loaded button that puts pressure on the lines going through it).
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Kataku2k3
Since 14 Aug 2005
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Los Angeles, CA
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| Wed Apr 11, 07 11:15 am |
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| Seems like it could work, but it'd have to have a lot stronger spring than on a draw cord...
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chanson
Since 31 Jan 2006
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| Wed Apr 11, 07 11:23 am |
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Elvis: Are you thinking of a stopper ball for your waroo's.......?
I am looking to mod-out my bars too.
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Wind Slither
Since 04 Mar 2005
2625 Posts
The 503
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| Wed Apr 11, 07 12:11 pm |
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You can buy the 07 upgrade kit for the 06 bars. No stopper at all just seems hellish to me. I don't know how the Waroos got so popular with no stopper on the stock bar.
BTW - I've been comparing the North stopper to the Slingshot. The North stopper "slips"... which I thought I didn't like, but the advantage is you can depower the kite quickly with one hand. The Slingshot stopper sticks like glue which is nice until that big unexpected gust hits and now it's a two-hand process to depower.
Ideally it seems like it would be nice to adjust the resistance or to have a quick release button. I'm new to these stoppers so this might be old hash.
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magicmaker
Since 29 Oct 2006
895 Posts
da Hood
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| Wed Apr 11, 07 1:10 pm |
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| I've actually found the 07 slingshot active stopper balls can be moved out while sheeting out the bar if you put one hand in the center of the bar and lead out a couple of fingers and use them to move hte stopper ball out before it comes into contact with the bar. Takes a little practice, but works really well for me. pulling the damned thing in, of course, is a whole nother ball game.
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stringy
Since 23 Jun 2006
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vancouver
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| Wed Apr 11, 07 1:13 pm |
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| Wind Slither wrote: |
BTW - I've been comparing the North stopper to the Slingshot. The North stopper "slips"... which I thought I didn't like, but the advantage is you can depower the kite quickly with one hand. The Slingshot stopper sticks like glue which is nice until that big unexpected gust hits and now it's a two-hand process to depower.
Ideally it seems like it would be nice to adjust the resistance or to have a quick release button. I'm new to these stoppers so this might be old hash.
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First off, my apologies if this sounds like commercial post.
You might try contacting Wiley's Watersports up here in Seattle. Shipping costs should be minimal to Portland.
www.wileyski.com
Phone 206-762-1300
Fax 206-762-7339
Orders 800-962-0785
dwiley@wileyski.com
As many of you might know, Darren modifies stock bars to perform well with Waroo style kites. He has a selection of stoppers, from the ones that hold (slingy style) to ones that hold but will punch out in the event of a gusty situation (north style).
stringy
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chanson
Since 31 Jan 2006
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| Wed Apr 11, 07 1:15 pm |
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| Quote: | | You can buy the 07 upgrade kit for the 06 bars. No stopper at all just seems hellish to me. I don't know how the Waroos got so popular with no stopper on the stock bar. |
Yeah, I know...seems crazy....but this was when all the "new" full depower bars and all that came out, so having the safety of being able to sheet all the way out to no power was hot.....!
I just never use it anymore, and the kites fly kinda shitty all the way depowered when sheeted out too far anyways...
Same as always, tech is always advancing...
Too bad we couldn't lease kites, then trade-em in for upgrades when the tech advances.... 
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Reaper356
Since 10 Dec 2006
781 Posts
Salem / LC Oregon
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| Wed Apr 11, 07 3:37 pm |
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| The lender wouldn't be able to get any return unless the lease was like $500 / year. Tech is changing too quick. A two year old kite is worth almost nothing compared to with a new one! Three+ year old well...
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wylieflyote
Since 30 Jun 2006
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Puget Sound & Wa. Coast
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| Wed Apr 11, 07 5:17 pm |
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| I added small zip ties through the line holes on my North Rebel 2007 stopper ball. This made it sticky, so now I have to push with both hands to depower. Never tried it without these... I guess you can rest the bar on the ball without slippage?
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TravisBickleRex
Since 30 Jun 2005
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| Wed Apr 11, 07 6:24 pm forget Stopper Balls... |
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In a roe-sham-bo, the French death metal band Gag Ball crushes any stopper ball 100% of the time.
...Postscript; yes, it's raining, what do expect me to post about? One more comment...Anybody reduced to extolling the virtues of zip ties and line holes on any forum, should be reduced to a pile of smoking ruin. But, in a tasteful enough manner to be included in a death metal video.  Okay, I'll give it to you languistic freak, that last outburst was a sentence fragment.
I will not demean myself to address the topic of "resting the bar on the ball without slippage."
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NateDogg
Since 05 Mar 2005
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| Wed Apr 11, 07 6:44 pm |
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| Quote: | In a roe-sham-bo, the French death metal band Gag Ball crushes any stopper ball 100% of the time.
...Postscript; yes, it's raining, what do expect me to post about? One more comment...Anybody reduced to extolling the virtues of zip ties and line holes on any forum, should be reduced to a pile of smoking ruin. But, in a tasteful enough manner to be included in a death metal video. Twisted Evil Okay, I'll give it to you languistic freak, that last outburst was a sentence fragment.
I will not demean myself to address the topic of "resting the bar on the ball without slippage." |
Post of the year. From now on and forever into the future all posts regarding balls must be linked back to this response. Bravo sir...bravo
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jahmbi
Since 28 Jul 2005
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| Wed Apr 11, 07 8:23 pm Re: forget Stopper Balls... |
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| TravisBickleRex wrote: | In a roe-sham-bo, the French death metal band Gag Ball crushes any stopper ball 100% of the time.
...Postscript; yes, it's raining, what do expect me to post about? One more comment...Anybody reduced to extolling the virtues of zip ties and line holes on any forum, should be reduced to a pile of smoking ruin. But, in a tasteful enough manner to be included in a death metal video. Okay, I'll give it to you languistic freak, that last outburst was a sentence fragment.
I will not demean myself to address the topic of "resting the bar on the ball without slippage." |
  ONLY TBR, CAN RULE THE LANGUAGE BARRIER OF WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT IS BAD..THIS TOPIC AS HE HAS SAID , HAS LACKED THE INTELLEGENTS, OF MANY ON THIS FORUM AND SHOULD BE TASTEFULLY REMOVED  TROLL
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chanson
Since 31 Jan 2006
1874 Posts
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Chimey
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| Thu Apr 12, 07 8:52 am |
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uhhh..
I'll take two of what you guys are on!!! 
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forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
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Hood River
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| Thu Apr 12, 07 9:38 am |
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I have a wiley modified bar. It's pretty cool. I'd recommend picking up a Slingshot Turbo bar and replacing the pulleys with the slingshot leaders with the velcro loops.
But honestly, the stopper is best to limit the throw on the bar when you let it go. When you put the bar up against the stopper, the kite starts pulling you downwind like a mack truck. Waroos fly best with constant feedback into the bar. All of you are welcome to check out my bar when you get a chance, it's sick! It's part Wiley, part SS Turbo Diesel.
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tinyE
Since 21 Jan 2006
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| Thu Apr 12, 07 10:14 am |
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| Forrest wrote: | | Waroos fly best with constant feedback into the bar. |
isn't that what a stopper ball would do for me?
I need a way to keep the waroo in the air (and stable) for about 30 seconds while I get into the bindings.
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pkh
Since 27 Feb 2005
6549 Posts
Couve / Hood
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| Thu Apr 12, 07 10:24 am |
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The 07 Waroos fly a bit better against the stopper than the 06... but in gusty wind I still like pushing the stopper far away. The Best bar stopper has enough resitance to keep the bar down when just riding but you can still push away to depower if you need to. Nice feature I think.
If you have some spare $$$ I'd definitely invest in getting a bar with an adjustable stopper ball or upgrading an existing bar. Its a huge benefit.
Toeside transition turn -> pull that stopper way down so the kite is juiced the whole time and downloop the sucker one handed. Drag the other hand in da buttah. 
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forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
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Hood River
Hick
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| Thu Apr 12, 07 12:51 pm |
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Oh, sorry, yeah a stopper would be perfect for that.
| FlyinElvis wrote: | isn't that what a stopper ball would do for me?
I need a way to keep the waroo in the air (and stable) for about 30 seconds while I get into the bindings. |
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