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Reaper356
Since 10 Dec 2006
781 Posts
Salem / LC Oregon
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Wed Feb 28, 07 4:29 pm Pumping up w/ Helium |
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Has anybody has ever filled their bladders w/ helium instead of air. I don't think it'd make quite enough lift to float the kite like a balloon, but might keep the kite in the sky in lulls and make for very EZ relaunching. Possible faster response?
I see two cons so far:
1. He is expensive
2. Need one of those lightweight tanks
Thoughts?
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Mark
Since 20 Jun 2005
3678 Posts
I need my fix because I'm a
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Wed Feb 28, 07 5:17 pm |
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Stay away from Hydrogen.
It would give a new meaning to hindenburg though.....
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Mark
Since 20 Jun 2005
3678 Posts
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Wed Feb 28, 07 6:07 pm |
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I wonder if it would leak out. Helium balloons work best if they are mylar.
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EdG
Since 19 Dec 2005
425 Posts
Just a Kook that's
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Wed Feb 28, 07 6:12 pm |
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I was thinking the same thing.
Wiki says...
"For similar reasons, and also due to the small size of its molecules, helium's diffusion rate through solids is three times that of air and around 65% that of hydrogen."
I'm not sure what the bladders are made out of and how they would react to it.
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Hein
Since 08 Mar 2005
1313 Posts
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Wed Feb 28, 07 6:30 pm |
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I tried it once
but accidentally let go
and my kite flew away
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MEwing5000
Since 14 Nov 2005
34 Posts
Seattle
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Wed Feb 28, 07 6:30 pm |
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Like clock work this topic comes up every year. Let's see the conclusion this year, I bet it's the same as the last three years. Has no positive effect in a kite. It's fun to day dream about it though.
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Sol-flyer
Since 21 Mar 2006
1280 Posts
Dude, where's my Bus?
Otto Mann
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Wed Feb 28, 07 7:46 pm |
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its not enough volume space.
there's a pretty good post about this on kiteforum,....bla
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Reaper356
Since 10 Dec 2006
781 Posts
Salem / LC Oregon
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Wed Feb 28, 07 9:34 pm |
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I think it'd probably leak out pretty quick as well. Our He regulators leak like a bitch in the lab so we have to be careful to shut em off if not in use. Forgetting gets spendy in a hurry on zero-grade (99.999%) insane purity stuff!
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BigR
Since 05 Jul 2005
372 Posts
White Salmon
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Thu Mar 01, 07 9:59 am |
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Doesn't do anything much,
I tried it back in 1997-1998.
Bought a big tank of Helium and filled up all the struts on my Wipika 8.5m,
which is kinda like an 11-12m nowadays.
anyhoo's, it was just a little bit lighter but not huge, slightly easier to relaunch, turned just a little bit faster, easier to keep in the air during lulls...
Thats it , it wasn't really worth it so I never did it after that
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pkh
Since 27 Feb 2005
6549 Posts
Couve / Hood
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Thu Mar 01, 07 10:49 am |
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I know this topic is as old as kiteboarding but its still fun to think about...
I wonder if Slingy ever tried it with the Machine... that thing holds a lot of air...
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Onad
Since 04 Mar 2005
1435 Posts
Coast<<PDX>>Gorge
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Thu Mar 01, 07 4:34 pm |
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Helium can be a lot of fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just ask Travis Bickel Rex (TBR)!!
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Wyo Kiter
Since 09 Mar 2006
148 Posts
In a VAN, down by the RIVER.
Stoked
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Thu Mar 01, 07 4:37 pm |
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I know a guy who uses Helium every shesh...He can jump higher and throw more spins than anyone I have seen out there!!!LOL
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tinyE
Since 21 Jan 2006
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Thu Mar 01, 07 7:51 pm |
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you know... looking at that picture makes me think.... screw the helium, but rigging a bottle of air like that (possibly a scuba tank?) on wheels could be pretty cool on the beach.... instant inflato of the machino...
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jahmbi
Since 28 Jul 2005
622 Posts
MORE HUMAN THAN HUMAN
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Thu Mar 01, 07 8:19 pm |
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FlyinElvis wrote: | you know... looking at that picture makes me think.... screw the helium, but rigging a bottle of air like that (possibly a scuba tank?) on wheels could be pretty cool on the beach.... instant inflato of the machino... | WHEELS ,WHAT A WUSSY TROLL
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Kataku2k3
Since 14 Aug 2005
3753 Posts
Los Angeles, CA
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Thu Mar 01, 07 11:26 pm |
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Screw standard pumps, screw electric pumps, screw air compressors, screw scuba tanks... I'm going to work on building a reusable nitrogen airbag inflation system into my kites. Hook up the lines, press a button, and voila. Kite's filled in 1/10th of a second!
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tinyE
Since 21 Jan 2006
2004 Posts
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Fri Mar 02, 07 7:47 am |
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jahmbi wrote: | FlyinElvis wrote: | you know... looking at that picture makes me think.... screw the helium, but rigging a bottle of air like that (possibly a scuba tank?) on wheels could be pretty cool on the beach.... instant inflato of the machino... | WHEELS ,WHAT A WUSSY TROLL |
lol... my back isn't what it used to be...
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hamlindp
Since 09 Feb 2007
358 Posts
I aint no lawnmowin' pump kite parker, I'm that dadgum
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Fri Mar 02, 07 7:50 am Helium laughter |
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How about a radio controlled helicopter that follows a sensor placed on the center quadrant of the leading edge. This could hold the kite up in lulls and add 50 feet to your jumps when the wind completely farts out. You could also have a remote fuel tank on the beach, with a LONG rubber supply line that continuosly feeds the engine of the helicopter. What do ya think?
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