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knotwindy

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PostSun Aug 10, 14 12:11 pm     Reply with quote

Whoever is having the most fun or has the biggest smile has priority, so if you are on this forum bitching, it is NOT you.

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Justsmile

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PostMon Aug 11, 14 7:07 pm     Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfeB74Z3Y4E


maybe this will help the visual people

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MarkWorth

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PostTue Aug 12, 14 12:22 am     Reply with quote

the dangler nailed it but no one noticed.

Not a right of way
Not a right of way
not a right of way

the stand on vessel must maintain steady course and speed to allow port vessel to change course

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D-Krep It Kiter

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PostTue Aug 12, 14 7:48 am     Reply with quote

MarkWorth wrote:
the dangler nailed it but no one noticed.


Actually, I did notice, and yeah, he was spot on. After years of windsurfing and kiting, there's one thing I've learned about right of way: there those that will give way, and those that won't. I just turn early, avoid the jousting competition, and get on with the session.

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zig zag 158

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PostTue Aug 12, 14 8:40 am     Reply with quote

also... regardless of tack... keep the upwind kite higher than the downwind kite..

when passing windsurfers keep the kite high as well or just jump over them

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LapDog

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PostTue Aug 12, 14 8:55 am    Re: Starboard rule Reply with quote

dangler wrote:

Ask 9 out of 10 about the starboard stand on vessel (maintain steady course and speed to allow port vessel to change course)...

and they will tell you the Starboard vessel can do whatever the fuck they want because they are on Starboard!


Yes, dangler nailed it.

Starboard craft has the right to set course and speed, and hold it! It does not have the right to change course to a higher angle, when a port rider pinches to cross safely on the upwind side.

If you meet anyone on the water who seems confused about this, I recommend jibing immediately (before getting too close). This will put you on the same tack as the other rider and a bit down wind of them. Instantly giving you unambiguous right of way on your new course (overtaking craft must avoid)! And even most sailing noobs seem to get that it is not okay to run someone down from behind!

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Blazeheliski

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PostTue Aug 12, 14 10:33 am     Reply with quote

As I have said on another thread - kiting has too much going on for a simplistic sailing vessel "starboard rule." Until I see a sailboat throwing a backroll or dropping into a wave to catch some tasty swell - sailboat rules really don't cut it for this sport. As others have mentioned - Dangler nailed it - you are responsible to avoid collisions. The complexity of the sport requires more rules of thumb rather than hard and fast rules. Here are the rules of thumb I follow when I am out there -

1. Give beginners a wide berth and plenty of room to learn the sport no matter what tack they are on.
2. I always give way to windsurfers no matter what tack they are on because I am usually able to get upwind easier.
3. I always give way to anyone (kiter/windsurfer) who just caught some swell. They worked to get in position for it - let them play.
4. If I see people throwing tricks in a certain spot (i.e. - Stevenson play area) I give them plenty of room or get into the rotation myself.
5. I give way to anyone who is in the middle of launching.
6. I give way to anyone who looks like they want to get upwind more than I do(more aggressive stance, etc)
7. If I see someone on a fun downwind tack - I give way to them.
8. I generally assume that no one is going to follow the starboard rule or even knows about it and do my part to avoid collisions.
9. I give way to all boats, barges, and even sailboats since I am way more maneuverable.
10. Avoid collisions.

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