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Sol-flyer

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PostSun Nov 15, 09 10:05 am    vid: THE THIN LINE avalanche awarness (a must see) Reply with quote


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Riding backcountry is one of the most liberating feelings. It can turn from bliss to
death all to quickly. I can't stress enough to be aware of the potential dangers.

This film is amazing, I hope it effects all of you the same way it did for me.

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blowhard

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PostSun Nov 15, 09 10:16 am     Reply with quote

so true
this weekend I was going threw my shit
Tracker ,Probe ,shovel ,gps,skins ,skis,snow machine,,,,
being buried alive will always be in the forefront
of my thinking

those trees looked fun tho Shocked

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PostSun Nov 15, 09 4:21 pm     Reply with quote

FYI - We'll be hosting a public showing of this film later this winter at DOG RIVER COFFEE HOUSE.
Stay tuned.

Or, I guess you could also buy it from us or your local backcountry snow shop.

It is a damn fine movie and should be require viewing for anyone thinking of hiking or ducking a rope.

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kitezombie

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PostMon Nov 16, 09 1:34 pm     Reply with quote

and please support your local avy centers!!! FMSAC will be showing this film December 3 Movie Night at the Black Butte Saloon, 259 Main Street in Weed...

http://www.fmsac.org/

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lawnmower

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PostMon Nov 16, 09 7:20 pm     Reply with quote

So, how do you make the transition from lift riding to the back country without getting burried?

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PostMon Nov 16, 09 8:37 pm     Reply with quote

lawnmower wrote:
So, how do you make the transition from lift riding to the back country without getting burried?

go with someone who is experienced

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PostMon Nov 16, 09 9:52 pm     Reply with quote

Ps make sure you practice with your locater. Having ridden my sled thru a avalanche, things happen very quickly. The locater has to be second nature.
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PostTue Nov 17, 09 9:09 am     Reply with quote

Hey Lawnmower,

The first step would be to read this book as it's one of the bibles for the back country. Talks about all the stuff you'd learn in a Avalanche awareness course. (Available from the Hood River library).

Staying Alive in Avalanche Terrain
http://www.amazon.com/Staying-Alive-Avalanche-Terrain-Tremper/dp/1594850844/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258477407&sr=8-1

Second step is to take an avalanche awareness course. These can be around $200 and be very beneficial. Usually two days, first day covers material you'll find in a book, second day is all rescue practice.

The third step is to find someone who's experienced, as Drock says, to go into the back country with.

You'll need a good setup of gear as well. Peeps DSP or Tracker, Metal Shovel, Probe, Pack along with a skinning setup (split board, or skiis).

lawnmower wrote:
So, how do you make the transition from lift riding to the back country without getting burried?

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PostTue Nov 17, 09 12:03 pm     Reply with quote

lawnmower wrote:
So, how do you make the transition from lift riding to the back country without getting burried?



You don't need all that classes and stuff. You just need one of these....

If you can find a four leaf clover or perhaps a horseshoe light enough to take into the back country that can help as well.

Seriously though, one of the best tools you can have is the ability to decide...its not worth dying for. Avalanche prediction is not a science and their will be many times when you dig a test pit and the results will be..well, its kind of risky..not as risky as before..but... is it too risky?

Read the avalanche forecasts, learn to dig test pits, carry a beacon. Err on the side of living to ski another day.


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genek

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PostTue Nov 17, 09 12:31 pm     Reply with quote

How about the avalanche balloon system (ABS)? Supposedly some people are using it in Europe. It's a ball you inflate when an avalanche starts and it surrounds you and keeps you near the surface of the avalanche. Sounds like a good idea, would like to see it in action. Better yet, why not make an inflatable raft that you can ride like Indiana Jones?
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PostTue Nov 17, 09 12:38 pm     Reply with quote

genek wrote:
Better yet, why not make an inflatable raft that you can ride like Indiana Jones?


yea,..like a KITE or something cool that you could SEND IT and fly away Laughing


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PostTue Nov 17, 09 1:46 pm     Reply with quote

the spot is also a good little tool. definitely a good thing to have if you get lost or in trouble out of bounds http://www.findmespot.com/en/
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PostTue Nov 17, 09 2:08 pm     Reply with quote

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Ps make sure you practice with your locater. Having ridden my sled thru a avalanche, things happen very quickly. The locater has to be second nature.


Yes, practice single and multiple burial searches. However, relying on a beacon to save your bacon is not the answer. I view a beacon as the absolute last tool I ever want to use. Most burials result is serious trauma so you want to avoid being caught in the first place. If trauma doesn't kill you time will, as your chance of survival goes down with every passing minute, so pick your partners accordingly. First, learn to identify risky terrain, snowpack and weather to minimize risk. Forrest and pdxmonkeyboy are spot on. Other seemingly trivial factors, such as group dynamics, can play a significant role in the chain of events leading to an accident. Learn as much as you can to make smart choices...

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PostTue Nov 17, 09 2:11 pm     Reply with quote

The ABS system has a very high survival rate but last I checked were pretty spendy- $800-$900. (pretty cheap compared to your life but still....)

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lawnmower

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PostTue Nov 17, 09 2:20 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks for the reference Forest. Guess I need to decide to decide which way to go $200 for avalanche course + Peeps + shovel + pole > $199 skibowl season night pass. Are there good back country ski opportunities within easy reach of Portland?

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PostTue Nov 17, 09 2:22 pm     Reply with quote

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The ABS system has a very high survival rate but last I checked were pretty spendy- $800-$900. (pretty cheap compared to your life but still....)


BCA has a new system that is meant to have a lower cost and get around the import of compressed gas containers. Not sure if it will be available this season?
http://www.tetonat.com/2009/01/bca-float-30-avalanche-airbag-abs-backpack/

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How about the avalanche balloon system (ABS)


ABS systems show the highest rate of survival because they keep you on top AND protect the head and neck from trauma.

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PostSun Nov 22, 09 1:18 pm     Reply with quote

lawnmower wrote:
Are there good back country ski opportunities within easy reach of Portland?


I am new to the area and was wondering this myself. Thanks

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